Oh and another thing wiseguy,
If clocks upstream don’t matter, why do high-end transports and DACs include external word clock inputs? Are all those engineers wasting their time, or is it just you who knows better than the entire industry?
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I own an RS130 and I am not personally offended by anything Boris has written. In fact I find him to be knowledgeable, consistent, coherent and often amusing. Who here doesn’t enjoy amusement from time to time? Abrasive at times, sure, but if you can’t handle that, don’t post.
I never expected the RS130 to sound like anything, I didn’t want it to sound like anything, but I did expect it to work right out of the box and be faithful to the stream. It has built in cache memory, how could it not be? There is the capacity for buffered content to play with. Surely I can wait a few seconds for the music to start, but once it starts, I want it to play as if I am listening to vinyl or CD…that is, continuous and without odd interruptions. The RS130 didn’t and still doesn’t several software updates later.
I chose it because it is well-built. It has a lovely display. You can load your library on an internal hard drive. It connects to a network.You can hook up an external drive. It is compatible with Apple Music and Qobuz. It plays video. It has every output imaginable. I thought it ideal for my theater that has separate multichannel and two channel capabilities. At its price, there really was no competitor, at least with the (limited) research that I had done. I saw it in person last August at Audio Advice live and liked it. Every review that I read or watched was positive.
I have two DACs, one in my Trinnov and one in my McIntosh preamp which I use for the RS130 and my universal disc player. I fully expect to get an additional two channel DAC in the future and buying a network transport such as the RS130 allowed me to delay that decision until I found the one I wanted. To me it was a harmless purchase, expensive but harmless.
And then I bought it. I can honestly say that is the only component in my system that I regret purchasing.
Its biggest failing is its software, and I am not breaking new ground with this statement. I grew up listening to records, cassettes, CDs and my digital library on my Mac. Even 8 track tapes. It all just worked. Streaming was to be the pinnacle in convenience. Rent, don’t buy, the content. Listen to whatever you want. Float between genres, experience new stuff. 192/24. With the RS130, my playback problems started right away. First I blamed myself for not understanding. I eventually became inured and indifferent while I work towards finding a replacement. I skipped right over indignation. It sent me right back to vinyl and my CDs which I still thoroughly enjoy. And Atmos music on Blu-ray Disc.
I will solve this conundrum eventually, but I hope HiFi Rose does it before I list this thing on eBay. Honestly they should have a Red Team working on rebuilding the software from scratch. I have completely given up on this thing ever passing Dolby Atmos content even though it is fully capable. Maybe the RS131 will, but I won’t buy it even if I watch a hundred positive YouTube Reviews.
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Hello @Eleven
Hats off, finally someone who’s honest and not just deceiving themselves! 
It’s always interesting when people here report what kind of “nice, expensive cables or gold-plated fuses” etc. they buy (which, by the way, have to be plugged in by moonlight) to hear the angels sing.
So, I listen to music, and it’s fun, and it makes me smile because every day while I listen to music, everything works as it should.
Unfortunately, penis sizes are measured here in cables, SFP modules, gold-plated fuses, and HDMI cables, instead of focusing on the essentials:
The joy of listening to music!
That’s why we’re here, and we have good equipment.
Many people here in the forum buy useless stuff that doesn’t always (or doesn’t) improve the sound, cheating themselves to justify the high expenditures that might only bring a marginal change, if any at all.
A lot of things are just imaginary: Psychoacoustics!!!
If you’d like to test it yourself, you can try it here. (Please turn on the translator).
Don’t switch off right away, try the tests.
But everyone is the architect of their own destiny!
If they, they, or it, think they have to pocket the money of the HiFi & High End mafia, that’s their problem. For me, there’s no help for such people.
Let’s take the RS520…everything in one device, the wiring and circuit boards are so close together that you don’t need expensive cables, of course, it’s all-in-one.
@BorisM, you’ve already debunked so much technical nonsense that has been and is being posted here, and if you actually read a bit, people would actually realize that a lot of what they buy is nonsense.
The most important thing in a system is speakers, followed by a good amplifier or all-in-one.
Then, very important for me is room calibration.
I’m currently playing from the Lyngdorf TDAI 3400, and it has everything you can imagine in terms of room calibration.
I use Roon without Muse, since everything is done in my Lyngdorf.
And about Rose:
Lyngdorf released an update for Qobuz Connect in May, and the update is still current. Tidal Connect has been integrated into the Lyngdorf system for a long time.
How long did it take for Rose to finally get Qobuz Connect working without issues? But I have to be fair to Rose. These are devices with many apps and complex software, and it can happen that the daylight saving time setting crashes Qobuz Connect.
I also understand the numerous people here who repeatedly report that after one of the many updates, something that worked has become worse.
I’ve posted about it here several times before. Yes, I too was magically drawn to the beautiful display and bought a Rose device. It sounds good, but without room calibration like Lyngdort’s RoomPerfect™, Rose is unfortunately no longer my favorite.
Display and good technology (Rose) notwithstanding. If Rose doesn’t include a standard room calibration in its portfolio for you soon, Rose won’t remain competitive.
But Rose wouldn’t be Rose if they didn’t already have something like that planned.
I’m 54 and have to get a hearing test every five years (to renew my truck license) in Germany. I always ask my occupational health doctor if she can print out the chart for the hearing test. I couldn’t hear anything from just under 14 kHz on the chart. My next license renewal is next year. We’ll see what I can still hear.
That’s why I don’t understand a lot of people here! If you can’t hear it anymore anyway, why buy HDMI cables for $500 or gold fuses for $200?
Well, as I wrote above…everyone does what they think is right.
Thanks 
As anyone who had actually been around for a while knows I have been Rose’s biggest defender against unreasonable demands from people who have no clue about software – Rose is using a wrong Android version, we want Tidal connect yesterday, we pull every band in the EQ up and are surprised there’s clipping etc. etc.
But you have to be realistic. The company does not know not even how to program, but how to run a proper software development project.
I would not be holding my breath here. Rose has come out officially saying that they aren’t even enabling PEQ in their “flagship” products because “something, something, audiophiles, something.” And that’s for a functionality they already have coded in Rose OS. Why would you think they’d spend either time (and knowing their software team, universe will collapse upon itself long before they release any kind of a working DRC) or money to license it from someone. And why would they spend money, when they can release a cheaper product (replacing a network adapter with SFP is cheaper…), charge more money for it, and their target market will eat it up.
Because you get to say that you bought a $500 cable.
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What I am reading here is somewhat concerning. I purchased a Rose RS130 yesterday and I am already experiencing micro-dropouts on Qobuz that completely ruin the listening experience. The streamer has already shut down by itself, and certain external hard drives in exFAT format (Samsung 5V) are not recognized.
At first, I assumed this was merely a software issue that could be resolved with a simple adjustment. However, what I am reading now makes me realize that the problem may be more fundamental. If this is indeed the case, it seems absurd that a streamer (RS130) could have been marketed for years while still suffering from such basic issues. I have already owned streamers from three other competitors, and I have never experienced anything of the sort.
It’s definitely concerning. I’ve reached out to HiFi Rose both publicly and privately asking for more information, but unfortunately haven’t received even an acknowledgment. That lack of communication only adds to the uncertainty.
As has often been the case in the past, HiFi Rose hasn’t directly addressed this growing problem, which leaves all of us guessing about what’s really happening—and wondering if, or more likely when, we’ll be affected by these hardware issues.
I experienced a screen failure myself, and while the U.S. distributor did step in and resolve it, I can’t help but feel uneasy. I’m not confident the same issue—or another unexpected hardware problem—won’t happen again in the future.
@ROSEHAN any comments? If you elect to not reply you will illustrate the lack of transparency to your current and potential customers.
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Well there you have it as I have experienced consistently in the past no comments from @ROSEHAN or anyone from @moderators.
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Dear HiFi Rose users
We apologize for the late response.
We are currently investigating this issue.
We have not yet been able to reproduce the issue on our end, and we will work to resolve it as soon as possible.
We apologize for any inconvenience.