Transfer files to RS150

Its always a personal choice, which of the features will bring you further.
Wish you good luck with some other brands.

Hi ROSELOA,

Hoping you see my earlier message and can provide some comments or explanation please.

Thank you

I did not try WIFI. I try not to use it for music. I did get a very good switch, and most of the stereo appliances use this switch. It is as well connected to the router. I tried a few things, check connections, even replaced some wires but nothing helps. For a few more days I am still transferring files. After I transfer everything, around 3Tb the transfers are going to be very small and not many so I am not worry about. If I find a solution I will post it.

@Alex1950, Thank you for the reply. Would you mind sharing the pace of the transfers please ? For example, how long it is taking to transfer every 100GB or so ? Mine was transferring at the rate of approximately 30 mins for every 1GB. It was going to take me over a month (assuming fully uninterrupted), to transfer the 1.8TB. Eventually, I gave up and bought an external SSD enclosure to house the SSD and transfer the files directly. Even playing Spotify connect works over wifi but not over ethernet so it looks like my unit might have an issue and I shall be returning it to the distributor for a thorough checkup.

I transfer Aretha (20.4Gb) and took 2 hours and 4 minutes. So I am transferring faster that you. 5Gb every 30 minutes. I do not mind because I had a bit of a mess, and I am cleaning as I go along. I like the idea of having the music in the rose and use the NAS as a backup. If anything changes I will post it.

@Alex1950, thanks for sharing.

@ROSELOA hoping you see this and can provide some advice pls

Thank you

Moved the R150, connect it to another switch that does not have a direct connection to the router but it is now in the same switch as the HAS. Used the same cables. The rest of the network stay the same. Voila, the bandwidth shot up, and I am transferring between 20 to 30. It is going to stay this way. I am too old to keep playing with it.

Same issue. I’m not able to transfer more than 5-6mb/s with smb protocol.
What Rose says about this issue?

I have the same issue. I’m going thru a managed switch. BOTH ports auto negotiates to 1GB. However, the Win transfer rate is 3MB/Sec at best. This is BS. The NAS and the 150B are on the same switch. This is brutal. I have a 1GB network and I get 3MB? Anybody experience this? Thanks!

Dear user

We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

When using a Rose device connected to a network, the file transfer speed is slower than usual. Depending on the network environment, the average is 20mb ~ 23mb, and it comes out up to 30mb.
File transfer speed depends on your network conditions.

Thank you

Hi,

I have a 1GB network. Maybe 7 devices on it. I put the 150B on the same 1GB switch as my QNAP. NO CHANGE. I installed the wireless dongle on the 150B. Disconnected the ethernet cable. Enabled wireless. Transfer speed of the exact same ripped CD increased to 8MB. I don’t believe it has anything to do with my network.

Is there anything I can test or try? Thank you!

The problem is NOT your network. Make sure that you update your RS150. It comes out of the box with SMB 1 that is extremely slow. Even with SMB 2 is still a lot slower than your network. How to solve the problem? What I did. I installed the SSD on my computer and transfer all my music to it. Now, I installed the SSD in the RS150. To update it I sync it with my SAN automatically where I have all my music. Once in while I do have to transfer some files. Still slow. I do not have the time now to play with it but my do it after summer. Good luck

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Thanks for your help. My 150B is at 4.6 or something. It is the latest. No other apps are showing updates available. Is there a way to check and force it?

I think, that Rose will never solve this issue (other android based players like the Eversolo DMP-A6 or the Fiio R7 can transfer the datas much faster through SMB), but try on the RS150 ftp unstead SMB.

It is obvious to me, now, that this device was never intended to “manage” files. The advertising is VERY DECEIVING. It is a great streamer. I gave up on really using it as a wav data base. I am thinking of just selling it and buying something else. I pulled the SSD out of the 150B and stopped trying to move files. I put all my wav’s back on a NAS. I have much better things to do in my life then suffer with this deficiency. For example, drink beer.

I DREAD trying the DataBase update though. Ill just live with having NO meta data. I should have kept my Sony HAPZ1es…

Digital Sound Files without MetaData are pretty much useless - unless you invest at least lots of hours to name the files properly - otherwise you will just have track01, track02 etc. for every CD you ripped.
I did my ripping with foobar, and into FLAC with 0 compression. This offers tagging etc.
I see this still as part of my hobby - and I tagged over 6000 CDs over the last 10+ years.
As I said earlier - one of the best ways to manage a large music collection is Roon with music stored on the NAS. Roon adds much more information to your collection, and connects artists within the database. This is worth the money - even its nowadays very expensive for the lifetime licence.
For the Rose DB capabilities - even if their DB Software would be as good as Roon - the local storage would never meet my needs (with max 4 TB).
I copied around 900GB Files for testing - and some album are not proper added to the DB - even not with 100% proper tagging - so I can understand your position about having a beer.
But using untagged material it is almost impossible to do proper DB adding.

Since this topic started over a year ago, I don’t think Hifi Rose cares much about improving the SMB performance. They must have known all of this when first releasing…

I think, the processor and the software are limited - or not that good implemented.
as I don’t work or have any other relation to Rose, I can’t say.
I don’t need it, so it is not disturbing me.
Just wanted to mention, that there are more effective solutions.

Problem is, people are spending 5000.00us on this product under the impression that SMB works. The advertising is deceiving. I’m pretty pissed about it. I’m not rich and I think I wasted my money.

Re File Transfers to 150B - I posted this concern on my new 150B way back in early 2022 and still too complicated to transfer a large collection from the Synology 920+ NAS to the now idle 4TB Samsung Internal SSD . So I just use it as a streamer or the original SMB connection to access the files from my NAS to play on the Rose via either HDMI to my Marantz 8015 for Video or using XLR to my Luxman 505 XII for music. I recently bought an Ever Solo DMP-A6 and so simple to use SMB - it virtually does the job for you of finding the NAS and making available all my PLEX files to use and/ or download to internal SSD. Unfortunately Rose while being an excellent well featured product in many ways it has generic software issues that unnecessarily complicate the user interface. I enjoy using both outputs but Rose Tube has limitations and recently I had the frustrating and unwatchable 1 min video cut out issue mentioned elsewhere and lip sync is major issue - well out beyond any corrections from the Marantz AVR. I cant spend the time required to constantly work on updates and improvements and from that perspective very disappointed with my purchase. Someone also mentioned their Sony HAPZ1 - I have the little brother Hap S1 and yes it works fine albeit with limitations compared to the Rose 150b I could not recommend the 150B or similar to a prospective buyer unless these issues become streamlined and automatic to the end user particularly given the comparative costs. I appreciate the company’s forums and endeavours to fix things but these ongoing problems should have a largely been predicted in the original design and build. That’s my take. Happy HIFI listening.