Hi, I have recently purchased a Rose RS151.
When I modify album Metainfo I understand that this is not written to the original audio file but to the devices internal database.
If this is correct, how do I back up this internal database to guard against device failure or even to transfer to my next Rose device?
Thanks
Allan
I have found it easier to rip my music and change the metadata and artwork on a computer rather than directly on the Rose. From the computer I transfer the music to the internal SSD that I installed in the Rose. This way there is always a backup of the music files in the format that you desires and no work is lost in case of failure. And frankly, it is just easier. I use the Apple Music app, FKA iTunes. Backing up is always good practice.
Thanks, yes I shall probably do this but it still leaves things like playlists on the internal database so if it could be backed up that would be more complete.
Is this possible?
I am not a playlist guy so this is beyond my knowledge. Sorry. Someone else will chime in for sure.
I recommend backup/restoration is on the entire database. This would be much easire to develop/manage ← during backup/restoration, the user would be prevented to interact with the system.
There is no way to transfer the internal database to another device.
Items such as playlists and favorites are stored in your Rose account, but the database stored on the local storage device cannot be backed up or restored.
Although it may be inconvenient, when using a different device, the only option is to rescan the music files on the storage device.
Like windows can create a full backup of its Operating System into one file. And later restore the entire Operating System. Need a similar concept for RS130; that is, all metadata & media item changes done on songs, albums, playlists, etc. needs to be backed-up and restorable onto the same or future RS130.
The above, is really a question of where are ongoing changes saved (in RS130’s internal database and/or in the user’s folders/files) ← this includes all streaming services’ media intertwined in the user’s library
Therefore, if the master data is only in the RS130’s internal batabase, then Rose needs to develop a way to backup/restore the internal database or Rose needs to develop a way to keep the user’s folders/files up-to-date (including all streaming services’ media involvement) .
@ROSEHAN Ensure Rose will either
Awaiting your response9
I would like to clearly organize your requests before forwarding them to our software team. I will share the points below with them; however, please understand that there is a high possibility they may not be implemented, and it could take a considerable amount of time.
This is a good wishlist.
I personally don’t think it is necessary to be able to backup and transfer the music files on the SSD it is any associated metadata updates that needs to be preserved. Perhaps changes to metadata on the ssd held files could be held in files on the SSD?
It would be a great start to spell out what stored on the internet database and what is not.
For instance, you state above
“Items such as playlists and favorites are stored in your Rose account, but the database stored on the local storage device cannot be backed up or restored.”
Are all playlists, say including Tidal, stored in this way so they would be accessible by signing in on a future device? Is there any limit to the number of playlists stored in my account? Does this include playlists made from the Ssd stored files? Clarification of these sort of things would be a good start.
The type of changes a user can do is:
My preference is to backup the master data (ie, which includes all above changes not save in my account) and if I get a new RS130, I will log-in using the same account, perform a scan and then activate the “restore” command to recover all the master data (that wasn’t saved into my account) onto the new RS130.
P.S. The new RS130 could happen if a major fault occurred during warranty; hence I got a new replacement RS130. Also, if I buy a new RS130 hardware upgraded unit in the future. As to needing restoration to a different HiFi Rose product like RS151, I suspect some users would desire to restore their RS130 master data onto their new RS151.
Regarding question #1, the user can move the folders/files manually.
Regarding question #2, if the master data is planned to reside in the user’s folder/files then yes, I expect “HiFi Rose to provide a user folder-based synchronization option; thus in this scenario I’m requesting a feature that reflects metadata and album, playlist,… changed information into the user’s file system, and a structure that allows restoration through the SCAN function.” ← However, if the master data resides in the RS130 Internal database then I expect a feature that will backup the entire internal “media” database & a feature to restore the master media data onto another HiFi Rose streamer product device.
Regarding question #3, to a user’s perspective, the user just triggers backup command & a restore command ← the user need not know any technical details like data structures; the user simply desires to “backup” and latter “restore” the latest backed-up master data file. <‐ note: if all media changes are automatically saved in my user account then there’s no need for a backup/restore feature
Regarding question #4, the developers needs to know this (not the users)