Comparison with HiFi Rose Products

How would you rate the credibility of this video regarding Rose products?

Especially given that there have been—and continue to be—plenty of reports here in the forum about numerous repairs becoming necessary, both during and after the warranty period.

So come on, everyone—don’t hesitate to reply; I’m genuinely interested in what you have to say.

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And that is actually what I was getting at when I posted that video: the world, for the most part, has become a pure throwaway society.

However, the video itself provided examples (such as T+A) demonstrating that things can be done differently.
And yes, many companies do indeed design their products in a modular fashion—something I think is excellent—in order to be prepared for the future.

See:

T+A, Pro-Ject Audio Systems, NAD, CH Precision, Cambridge Audio & Arcam, Linn…

P.S.
I didn’t want to mention my device, but it belongs in this category as well.

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To me, for instance, this means a printer that prints 3,500 pages—and then, on the 3,501st, simply stops working.

I don’t use fancy, sugar-coated terms like “planned obsolescence” to describe this; rather, I call it what it is: a complete fraud—against both the customer and the environment. All this junk—which could still be fully functional—gets shipped off to Africa, where it is burned, sending toxic fumes billowing out into the world. And that, in my view, is something that simply does not have to happen!

Reason for that is purely economical. Back in the time where I live was socialism. Everybody were living from the paycheck, you could not own a business (except very small artisan business or small agriculture farm). So, everybody were poor and repairs had very low price because labour was very cheap. Everything was repaired. There was a shipyard near me. If you can’t find any mechanical part for anything and you know somebody in the shipyard, it can be custom made for you in exchange for some good drink or food, or a small fee :slight_smile: There were no obstacles for improvisation. We would import engines and car parts from western junkyards and rebuild them new.

But today, we are not so poor anymore, so now nobody won’t even open a device without 100€. Nobody has a reason to pay more for a repair than new. This is inevitable process. But it can be slowed down if there is a law that you must recycle it (not export to Africa), and add the cost of recycling to the original price. That way the balance would shift a bit to the side of repairs vs. EOL.

Regarding specific obsolence of HiFI electronics, this is a bit complicated. For instance, streamers which have also good capabilities as DAC and digital preamp will not so easy go into obsolence.

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I, too, come from the eastern part of Germany, and back then we were still able to repair things—we had the ingenuity to turn absolute crap into something sweet. Nowadays, things are simply swapped out because it’s cheaper. As a result, many mechanics—for instance—are losing touch with the very essence of their trade: the act of repairing itself. It’s all done by computer now. If the computer says there are no faults with the car, the customer simply drives off again—even if the vehicle is sputtering and backfiring. That is how things have become today, because a car is now viewed as nothing more than a mere utilitarian object. In my day, a car was something of value—and to me, it still is today. Just like my Hi-Fi system; it cost good money—money I went to work every single day to earn.

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