Complete and utter bullshit.
Maybe after Rose fixes each and every issue with the software and add every requested feature, they can look into adding useless crap, too.
@BorisM maybe you need to have a hangover cure and observe the rules of normal tone?!
for a couple of decades in the hobby, this is one of the coolest sounding things that actually works
I’m fairly knowledgeable in this area and I cannot understand what they are saying. It makes no sense to me. Perhaps it’s me, perhaps it’s them.
StandardModel
Yes… it “works” in a sense that it will make a sound. Which will be completely identical to that produced by using any other bit-perfect protocol.
@StandardModel is being nice here, and since i am not, I will lay it down – the “technical” explanation at Diretta makes no sense whatsoever and only show that either the developer has absolutely no idea what he is talking about or is just out to fleece naive audiophiles who don’t know anything about networking either. Or, most likely, both.
In layman’s terms, it is an absolutely useless piece of crap with no practical purpose.
Bonte,
Thanks.
The article from Netmagazine is much more detailed and informative. However, the entire purpose of digitization is to ignore analog fluctuations if they are of a lower amplitude than the digital pulses of ones and zeros. Noise of the type the author is describing (unless it rises to the level of the digital signal) doesn’t get transmitted from one device to another over fiber optic cables. I can see a benefit if there were an analog signal transmitted between host and player, but that isn’t the case.
What am I missing?
StandardModel
“The effect of the Diretta network protocol in the tested configuration is amazing. The best thing is that it is not particularly difficult to hear the differences. We hope that Diretta will become more widely used in the future!”
The Diretta makes sense on a copper network, but what about in a purely optical system and a topology like Server → switch → RS130 → RD160 full optical?
Personally, I think this combo will be hard to beat in this (already very high) price range…
However, if this Diretta protocol also brings advantages via fiber, I’m interested. Moreover, Diretta is not an overpriced technology, like many stupid things that are offered to us all day long for us gullible audiophiles.
That interested me too.
Unfortunately I couldn’t find anything about Diretta in connection with a fiber optic connection quickly on the internet.
Slide in well, everyone, and let the corks pop.
Nothing. There is no problem that it solves.
Uh huh. “Audiophile” magazines will praise anything, as lo9ng as they get a free sample to play with and sweet, sweet advertising pesos. There are people even ion this very forum hearing “amazing differences” from inserting colored fuses in their equipment. At least fuses could make your equipment go “poof.” Diretta doesn’t even do that much.
No, it does not make any sense even on a copper network. Why do you think the lights on your switvch are always blinking even if no data is being sent? Not that fiber made any objective difference either, but that’s another story.
Because nobody is using it. Develoiper shoehorned it into some free player software, and there are a few companies (also selling “audiophile” network cables, of course) that nobody ever heard of that are trying to differentiate themselves – because they ain’t got nothing else.
No reputable manufacturer expressed any interest in it, because… yeah, because it doesn’t do squat.
Happy New Year, first of all.
There was a party yesterday and I also looked at T+A in Germany, for example…nobody has anything like that. That’s why I guessed (I’ll check quickly). If it were that convincing, the big streamer providers at least would have something like that on board.
If it were as convincing !!!as!!! Roon, for example, which is built into some expensive (MUSIC PLAYERS WITH INTEGRATED DAC), a number of manufacturers would have jumped on the bandwagon.
Anyone who still has money left from 2024 can get the GRIMM MU2. It has everything on board (Roon Core and Roon End Point integrated)
Happy New Year!
Exactly. T+A isn’t cheap, but it’s not quite a snake oil peddler. And with Diretta’s business model being trying to license or sell their modules to others, you’d think someone would have picked it up.
They list a few hardware partners, but all of them seem to be some tiny Japanese companies that no one had heard of or cares about. You do not see Rotel or Luxman picking it up.
And then, to anyone with some knowledge of networking the description on Diretta’s page is just a complete pile of cow dung that means nothing.
It makes about as much sense as (don’t know if you have them in Germany) companies advertising some special magnets you are supposed to put around your gas supply line so that your car gets better fuel economy. You’d think, if it worked some major auto maker would snap it up and put it in all their cars. But somehow it does not happen. Same thing here.
Yes, Boris, you’re right again. That’s why I looked at T+A, because I know, as you said, that it’s “not” a dubious provider from Herford.
If you’ve skimmed through the report in Netmagazin, you can also read that there are almost no devices (Diretta) that support it and the “Jonalist” had to borrow devices.
You know very well that I don’t care about such nonsense at all, whether fuses, cables, or SFP modules. I’ll just try Roon again and if I get a difference in sound as a result (which I definitely will), I still have to decide whether I can afford it. It’s not just Roon that you pay for
There are a number of things (electricity, internet, TV/music streaming services, cell phone…).
It might be different in the States, but here in stupid Germany, everything is getting more and more expensive. We’re just being asked to pay.
Prices are going up here, too… it’s the same everywhere.
Roon by itself isn’t going to give you any better sound quality than any other bit-perfect system, but at least you can bypass most of Rose’s software (sure, they could break Roon, too, NAD/BlueSound do it all the time, but that would take more effort). And if you measure your room/speakers and create a room correction filter, it can sound quite a bit better.
Hi Boris,
You definitely have better salaries for that. I’m only an average earner. I work in the public sector (state employee) and work in the green sector. The advantage: I’m employed as a community worker in my place of residence. We ensure that four villages stay clean. From carpenters to 40-ton truck drivers to “street sweepers”, but at least I don’t have to drive long distances to and from work and 30 days’ vacation are also included. In addition, here, in the north, there is mostly only tourism and no large industry.
Today is my first day of work in the new year. It starts at 7:00 a.m.
It’s nice to go there by bike…save fuel and protect your car, an advantage.
As I can see, that is something similar to Dante. But Dante is already very deep rooted in professional audio, everybody is supporting it, so it is a question of minute when will enter consumer audio. So, IMHO, there is no chanse for other similar systems to prevail. Dante and it’s capabilities are not needed for consumer audio, but practicality of just plugging Ethernet cable from the switch and have a sound coming directly from it will bring this system in consumer audio very soon. As usual, it will lagging professional audio for some 20 years
Well, better salaries, but we do not get anything like European vacations and pay more for healthcare… At least I get to work from home and don’t need to deal with driving, or the lack of decent public transport pretty much everywhere in the US.
Dante’s quite different. For one, it is actually developed by professionals, and does what it is supposed to do. Being professionals, of course they are not claiming any magical sound quality improvements, just that you can push 1024 channels of uncompressed audio, to multiple devices, in sync and with a very low latency. Very good if you are running a movie theater or a recording studio. At home you can get all you need with RAAT, or whatever protocols LMS or Audirvana use.