DIretta Protocol in RS130

The Diretta makes sense on a copper network, but what about in a purely optical system and a topology like Server → switch → RS130 → RD160 full optical?
Personally, I think this combo will be hard to beat in this (already very high) price range…

However, if this Diretta protocol also brings advantages via fiber, I’m interested. Moreover, Diretta is not an overpriced technology, like many stupid things that are offered to us all day long for us gullible audiophiles.

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That interested me too. :thinking:

Unfortunately I couldn’t find anything about Diretta in connection with a fiber optic connection quickly on the internet.

Slide in well, everyone, and let the corks pop. :beers: :clinking_glasses: :champagne:

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Nothing. There is no problem that it solves.

Uh huh. “Audiophile” magazines will praise anything, as lo9ng as they get a free sample to play with and sweet, sweet advertising pesos. There are people even ion this very forum hearing “amazing differences” from inserting colored fuses in their equipment. At least fuses could make your equipment go “poof.” Diretta doesn’t even do that much.

No, it does not make any sense even on a copper network. Why do you think the lights on your switvch are always blinking even if no data is being sent? Not that fiber made any objective difference either, but that’s another story.

Because nobody is using it. Develoiper shoehorned it into some free player software, and there are a few companies (also selling “audiophile” network cables, of course) that nobody ever heard of that are trying to differentiate themselves – because they ain’t got nothing else.

No reputable manufacturer expressed any interest in it, because… yeah, because it doesn’t do squat.

Happy New Year, first of all.

There was a party yesterday and I also looked at T+A in Germany, for example…nobody has anything like that. That’s why I guessed (I’ll check quickly). If it were that convincing, the big streamer providers at least would have something like that on board.

If it were as convincing !!!as!!! Roon, for example, which is built into some expensive (MUSIC PLAYERS WITH INTEGRATED DAC), a number of manufacturers would have jumped on the bandwagon.

Anyone who still has money left from 2024 can get the GRIMM MU2. It has everything on board (Roon Core and Roon End Point integrated)

https://www.hoerzone.de/shop/hersteller/grimm-audio/grimm-mu2-music-player-mit-integrierten-dac.html?srsltid=AfmBOooT6Wzs5LIinX4dFU11odSS0mTy8IsQ9-i4OeOWz4GL32_dxfUb

:wink: :wink: :moneybag: :moneybag:

Happy New Year!

Exactly. T+A isn’t cheap, but it’s not quite a snake oil peddler. And with Diretta’s business model being trying to license or sell their modules to others, you’d think someone would have picked it up.

They list a few hardware partners, but all of them seem to be some tiny Japanese companies that no one had heard of or cares about. You do not see Rotel or Luxman picking it up.

And then, to anyone with some knowledge of networking the description on Diretta’s page is just a complete pile of cow dung that means nothing.

It makes about as much sense as (don’t know if you have them in Germany) companies advertising some special magnets you are supposed to put around your gas supply line so that your car gets better fuel economy. You’d think, if it worked some major auto maker would snap it up and put it in all their cars. But somehow it does not happen. Same thing here.

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Yes, Boris, you’re right again. That’s why I looked at T+A, because I know, as you said, that it’s “not” a dubious provider from Herford.

If you’ve skimmed through the report in Netmagazin, you can also read that there are almost no devices (Diretta) that support it and the “Jonalist” had to borrow devices.

You know very well that I don’t care about such nonsense at all, whether fuses, cables, or SFP modules. I’ll just try Roon again and if I get a difference in sound as a result (which I definitely will), I still have to decide whether I can afford it. It’s not just Roon that you pay for
There are a number of things (electricity, internet, TV/music streaming services, cell phone…).

It might be different in the States, but here in stupid Germany, everything is getting more and more expensive. We’re just being asked to pay.

:v:t2:

Prices are going up here, too… it’s the same everywhere.

Roon by itself isn’t going to give you any better sound quality than any other bit-perfect system, but at least you can bypass most of Rose’s software (sure, they could break Roon, too, NAD/BlueSound do it all the time, but that would take more effort). And if you measure your room/speakers and create a room correction filter, it can sound quite a bit better.

Hi Boris,

You definitely have better salaries for that. I’m only an average earner. I work in the public sector (state employee) and work in the green sector. The advantage: I’m employed as a community worker in my place of residence. We ensure that four villages stay clean. From carpenters to 40-ton truck drivers to “street sweepers”, but at least I don’t have to drive long distances to and from work and 30 days’ vacation are also included. In addition, here, in the north, there is mostly only tourism and no large industry.

Today is my first day of work in the new year. It starts at 7:00 a.m.

It’s nice to go there by bike…save fuel and protect your car, an advantage.

:v:t2:

As I can see, that is something similar to Dante. But Dante is already very deep rooted in professional audio, everybody is supporting it, so it is a question of minute when will enter consumer audio. So, IMHO, there is no chanse for other similar systems to prevail. Dante and it’s capabilities are not needed for consumer audio, but practicality of just plugging Ethernet cable from the switch and have a sound coming directly from it will bring this system in consumer audio very soon. As usual, it will lagging professional audio for some 20 years :smiley:

Well, better salaries, but we do not get anything like European vacations and pay more for healthcare… At least I get to work from home and don’t need to deal with driving, or the lack of decent public transport pretty much everywhere in the US.

Dante’s quite different. For one, it is actually developed by professionals, and does what it is supposed to do. Being professionals, of course they are not claiming any magical sound quality improvements, just that you can push 1024 channels of uncompressed audio, to multiple devices, in sync and with a very low latency. Very good if you are running a movie theater or a recording studio. At home you can get all you need with RAAT, or whatever protocols LMS or Audirvana use.

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From my experience of using Diretta, this is one of the best ways to get a very high resolution sound through the network as if you are not using the network at all. For any application on your server, Diretta Host will create a virtual local device that is similar to available through the network. The most important settings are made on the server side, so I do not see problems in adding this protocol and I will be glad to see it in my RS130.

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+1 for Diretta support

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You really should try painting some pink and bight-green dots on your device. You’d be amazed how much it improves the sound, compared with Dumbetta!

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I get it. The Diretta protocol is a sham, like MQA. :sob: They’re trying to manipulate people into buying new devices again. And most people won’t hear this promised nirvana anyway. :face_with_monocle:

The best filter for network interference is wireless streaming of data from the 5G network to the recipient’s WiFi host. The streamer is connected via WiFi, and all these digital interference transmission problems are shot into space. :+1:

Diretta is even more of a scam. MQA at least does something (mostly useless, but bits are different, and some different filters are applied). Diretta just outright does not do anything that could affect anything in any way. And developer’s “explanation” of how it works is just a load of self-contradictory meaningful nonsense.

There are a couple of interesting threads on Roon’s forums about it.

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Information from the Telepolis portal:
The moderator of the diyAudio forum, signing as Pano, prepared a blind test in which four 30-second versions of the same fragment were made available for listening: the original file, a recording passed through 180 cm of professional copper cable, through 20 cm of wet mud (combined with 120 cm of copper), and through a 13 cm banana (also made of 120 cm of copper). Respondents were asked to determine how the sound signal was conducted in a given recording. The results of the blind test are: The answers were very inaccurate—of the 43 entries, only 6 were correct, giving a hit rate of about 14%. Statistical analysis of the results indicated that such a result could have occurred by chance with a probability of a few percent. In other words, the bananas and the mud sounded almost the same as the copper cable. :star_struck:
– Now, supporters of cables with cosmic dust on their veins, you can give your surplus money to your family. :partying_face:

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Alas, they won’t. They’ll just buy audiophile “legs” for their gear instead…

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