Eversolo bought an RD 160, copied it and went one better

Eversolo has copied the RD 160 except added a lot more features…at one third the price.

Eversolo DAC Z-10


Where the DAC Z6 and DAC Z8 offered excellent performance for their price, the Z10 moves into a higher class. It uses AKM’s Velvet Sound architecture in a dual mono layout that pairs an AK4191 digital modulator with an AK4499 DAC chip for each channel. Keeping left and right fully independent from input to conversion improves separation and lowers crosstalk to extremely low levels. The DACs are clocked by an oven controlled crystal oscillator and a femtosecond grade PLL system that keep timing precise and stable.
Power is supplied by three independent linear supplies, one for the left channel, one for the right channel, and one for system control.
USB Audio in, dual coaxial in, dual optical in, I2S over HDMI, AES/EBU in, and HDMI ARC and eARC for use with a TV. The I2S input supports up to 32 bit 768 kHz PCM and DSD512 and includes eight selectable pinout modes so you can match it to your transport. There is also Bluetooth via a Qualcomm QCC5125 module with support for high quality codecs.
On the Eversolo website: THD+N at the XLR balanced output is listed as < 0.000078% (-122 dB) and at RCA output as < 0.00009% (-121 dB).

Note same AKM DAC chips as RD 160.
Three independent power supplies.
More inputs and controls.
External master clocks at 10 MHz or 25 MHz
Z-10’s distortion is way better that of the RD160. The RD160’s Total Distortion is 0.005% corresponding to a SINAD in the low-90s dB region (~86 dB) which is much less impressive than what one might expect at the price point of the RD 160.

I quote this product’s specifications not to promote it but to encourage HiFi Rose to up its game to remain competitive because predictably the ChiFi folks will copy it (and a good copy it seems to be) and sell it at a third of the HiFi Rose price.

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Yes, definitely its easier to copy something than to innovate.

Eversolo has had its eyes on Rose for a while.

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EverSolo, of course, has been making streamers with screens for quite some time, certainly long before 160 appeared, but it’s not like standardmoron would ever let facts bother him.

Thanks. Definitely my next DAC to get after the T8.

More video on Youtube.

I don’t understand but they have the same quality components? because T8+Z10 don’t have the same quality sound that RS130+RD160, Hifi Rose is more Organic, Smooth, Natural… implemented with the same cables, amp, etc…

That’s because the 160 (130 has no effect on sound whatsoever) distorts more and is noisier and less accurate, which some people might subjectively prefer.

HiFi Huff now has a review and says the same thing. Eversolo has their eyes focused on HiFi Rose and has copied the RD 160.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOL5VpFYyks&t=757s

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Quick question:

Who did HiFi Rose copy?

Doesn’t this design look familiar to you?

Rose’s amplifiers, especially the source selector switches, look suspiciously like those from the high-end Swiss manufacturer Nagra Audio. :wink:

Yeah, because nobody had ever released a stand-alone DAC before. Oh, wait, it’s Model T talking…

Bonte,

Yes, especially the faceplate as you mentioned. Insides, no, not copied.
Eversolo? Inside copied completely.

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Obviously not (although hard for you to understand) – T8 is an accurate DAC, RD160 is not. And both companies are copying Novatron, albeit EverSolo does it more successfully.