HiFi Rose user Update: Strengthening Stability, Quality, and Support

@duffer5

The response you mentioned describes the direction we are aiming to take going forward.
We are gradually implementing the improvements outlined in that statement.

It has been about a month since then.
I understand your frustration, but if you could tell me specifically which issues or points you are concerned about,
I will do my best to check and provide a detailed update on the progress.

Please try to avoid general comments and share your questions as specific and detailed as possible.

We deserve a complete and transparent response to every question raised above. The ongoing lack of clarity and evasive replies are unacceptable. Each concern deserves a clear, detailed answer—not another generic statement that everything is “in process.”

Many of us have observed what appears to be a repeating pattern: apologies, deflections, and delays that eventually fade into silence. That approach erodes trust and damages HiFi Rose’s reputation with its most loyal users.

It’s time for HiFi Rose to engage directly and honestly with its community. We’re not asking for promises—we’re asking for accountability, transparency, and real answers. The longer these issues remain unaddressed, the more users will continue to lose confidence in the brand.

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Be honest and admit that the latest update for the RS151 model destroyed the sound quality!

@ROSEHAN Ok. You want questions.

  1. Are you going to fix the library rescan function and deleted files or folders should be deleted also from library?
  2. Are you going to fix the DSD gapless playback?
    These are questions for over 2 years that i’ m asking and getting always the same answer (scripted).
  3. Fix the sound that so many complaining. I got an Eversolo T8 and outperforms the RS130 for almost 1/4 of the money and the library works just fine and the gapless playback on DSD works also. Sounds way better and detailed. The only thing that is better is the big screen of the RS130 from the Eversolo T8 for me right now.
    You wanted specific questions. Now give me specific answers but not the scripted ones.
    It’s time for reality not for shows.
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@christoum1974

Yesterday, we held an internal meeting regarding both software and hardware issues.
I would like to provide direct answers to your questions:

  1. Library File Deletion Function
    Adding a file-deletion feature is technically possible.
    However, even when we previously added the copy function, the device experienced hardware overload, which caused extremely slow performance.
    If we add file deletion in the current hardware structure, the same overload issue may occur.
    Because of this, our team is currently exploring alternative methods to implement a safe and stable file-deletion function.

  2. DSD Gapless Playback
    Technically, it is possible to add DSD gapless support.
    However, implementing this feature has proven to be highly complex, and the development has currently been put on hold due to technical limitations.

Moving forward, we will assign a responsible engineer to each of the issues discussed in our meeting.
For long-standing problems reported on the HiFi Rose Community, we will provide regular status updates as we receive progress from our development team.

Thank you for your patience, and we will continue to improve our communication and transparency.

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It’s always frustrating when an expensive device doesn’t work as expected. The reasons for this aren’t necessarily Rose Audio’s fault. We all have different internet connections via routers, modems, Wi-Fi, LAN, etc., which are likely all configured differently. End devices like tablets, mobile phones, or iPads also vary considerably and don’t all run the same software. Keep this in mind; the problem isn’t always Rose Audio’s fault.

@ROSEHAN
First of all thank you for your direct answers.

  1. When it comes to library file deletion you telling me that the software needs too much resources that the hardware cannot handle (hardware overload) or the hardware (cpu/ram) has not the specs to support these functions. Probably you have to approach this differently and re-develop the software.
  2. About DSD gapless playback more direct answer it would be the explanation of “technical limitations”. If you mean the lack of knowledge of the development team i will understand that and i want to add that it’s obvious.

It is very clear that your only choice to save your reputation the very last moment is to replace the development team and do things in a better way or let me say in the best way possible.

And the last thing … Make your words actions for everybody to see.

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Stop messing around with this corporate nonsense about trying to copy US practices to appease people and fix the disaster you created with the last RS151 update. You DESTROYED the audio quality, and stop lying about not messing with the DAC or the outputs. We’re not deaf; we all have ears, and we all noticed what you did. Furthermore, how can you not fix the gapless playback issue with DSD files? Please, don’t treat us like idiots.

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@JMBARG,
fully agree with you. Look her in this topic as same as here => It's time to dirac

Typical ROSEHAN bla bla. Pretty sure this will happend exectly with this topic (Library File Deletion Function, DSD Gapless Playback ).

Just think about how long it would take if an error like this happen in EVERSOLO device / software.
A week ? 2 weeks? Sure not longer than a month. But this include fixing testing + rollout.

Ok Rose HIFI du not test but lets see what there deliver + when there deliver.

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In other words, your software/FW team (person?) doesn’t have the skill to do it,

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120% agree with you! I curse the day I continued to trust these charlatans at HiFi Rose.

120% agree with you! I curse the day I continued to trust these charlatans at HiFi Rose. They don’t behave like honest people.

I don’t really think HiFi Rose is necessarily dishonest. I think they may have just not realized they didn’t have the talent on the SW/FW side to match the hardware, which IMO is quite capable.

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That’s always a challenge.
There’s a lot more to software development especially when you have a lot of moving pieces.

I believe it is time to revisit this thread and, respectfully, ask for an update from @ROSEHAN and the moderation team (@moderators).

When the open letter, “Strengthening Stability, Quality and Support,” was published, it outlined a commitment to improving the ownership experience for HiFi Rose customers. Many of us welcomed that message and viewed it as an acknowledgment of the concerns that had been repeatedly raised by the community.

Since then, a considerable amount of time has passed, and I think it is fair for customers to ask: What progress has been made against those commitments? Which initiatives have been completed, which remain in progress, and what measurable improvements should customers expect to see?

This is not intended as criticism, but rather as a request for transparency and accountability. The best way to rebuild confidence is not through promises, but through visible results and regular communication regarding those results.

I would genuinely appreciate an update on the deliverables outlined in that letter and how HiFi Rose measures its progress against those objectives. Many of us continue to support the brand and want to see it succeed, which is precisely why these questions remain important.

@duffer5

I think that there has been a concerted effort on the part of Rose.

Better communication here.
A consistent update routine on the Rose One app.

Things like that.

I don’t know if they have worked w local distributors to improve customer sat though.
I live in the US where Mofi (RoseUSA) seems to have done a good job. Of course YMMV depending on where you live.

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Really feeling disappointed. I have purchased 4 Rose products over the past 2 years. The last purchase a RS130. The other day came home and the unit clicks on and off but blank screen nothing happens. I called for service and although I have owned it for less than 2 years it was manufactured 2 years and a few months so out of warranty. I can send the unit in for repair but looking at $1,000 or more for repair as an estimate. At this point I guess I’m stuck with no other choice.

Warranty should be 2 years from date of purchase, not manufacture date.

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Unfortunately, @spkbmw007’s experience is exactly why I believe this thread and the commitments HiFi ROSE made in it deserve to be revisited.

The original statement was not vague. HiFi ROSE made specific commitments regarding hardware quality, after-sales support, distributor support, parts availability, response times, transparency, and communication with customers experiencing problems.

In particular, HiFi ROSE stated:

“Our goal is to give every customer peace of mind when using HiFi Rose products…”

It also committed to stronger pre-shipment inspections, proactive after-sales support, a strengthened service network, improved distributor resources, faster solution-focused responses, and clearer warranty, repair and replacement processes.

Those are meaningful commitments. But ultimately they have to be measured against actual customer experiences.

Now we have @spkbmw007, who says he has purchased four HiFi ROSE products in two years , reporting that his RS130 will click but no longer boot and displays a blank screen. More troubling, he says that despite owning the RS130 for less than two years, he was told it is outside warranty because it was manufactured more than two years ago and that he could potentially be facing a repair costing $1,000 or more.

If that warranty information is accurate—and I would very much like @ROSEHAN to clarify it—that is extremely concerning.

A customer has no control over how long a product sits between its manufacture date and its eventual retail sale. If HiFi ROSE’s warranty is actually being calculated from the manufacturing date rather than the customer’s documented purchase date, that policy deserves a clear explanation here. If @spkbmw007 was given incorrect information, then HiFi ROSE should clarify that as well and help him obtain the warranty coverage to which he is entitled.

There is another reason his report concerns me.

We now have @Rasidaba documenting a recurring RS130 failure involving a unit that clicks but does not start, despite previous replacement of major internal components. We now have @spkbmw007 describing what appears, at least superficially, to be a similar click/no-boot/blank-screen symptom. I have personally had an RS130 replaced following a complete display failure.

None of that, by itself, proves that the RS130 has a systemic design defect, and I don’t think we should make that assertion without failure-rate and engineering data that only HiFi ROSE possesses.

But it absolutely justifies asking HiFi ROSE for greater transparency.

That is especially true because the original statement in this very thread told customers that HiFi ROSE had investigated reported hardware failures and determined that they were attributable to “variances in specific components in a limited number of units,” rather than design or circuit defects.

So I think some reasonable follow-up questions now exist:

Have the more recent RS130 failures been investigated and compared with the failures referenced in the original statement?

Are the same components involved?

Were any components or manufacturing processes subsequently revised?

What did the promised “stronger pre-shipment inspections” actually entail?

Has HiFi ROSE measured whether those changes reduced hardware failures?

And when a customer experiences repeated major failures, at what point does HiFi ROSE move beyond another repair and consider replacement or extended warranty protection?

These aren’t “gotcha” questions. They are exactly the type of accountability that should follow a public statement titled “Strengthening Stability, Quality and Support.”

There is also a significant new development since @Smegel’s June response. At that time, he reasonably pointed to MoFi’s U.S. support as an example of something that appeared to be working well.

MoFi is no longer the U.S. distributor.

HiFi ROSE has now assumed responsibility for U.S. distribution through HiFi ROSE USA, and the transition itself has exposed additional communication and coordination problems that have been extensively documented elsewhere on this forum.

That makes an update to this thread even more appropriate.

HiFi ROSE told us it would establish measurable improvements in quality, support and communication. Several months later, I think customers are entitled to something more substantive than another assurance that improvements are being made.

Tell us what was implemented.

Tell us what remains outstanding.

Tell us what the response-time SLA actually is and whether it is being met.

Tell us what changed in hardware quality-control procedures.

Tell us how warranty and replacement decisions are being handled.

Tell us how distributor performance is being measured.

And where the results haven’t met HiFi ROSE’s expectations, simply acknowledge that and explain what happens next.

I continue to believe HiFi ROSE makes some excellent products. That’s what makes these issues so frustrating. Customers spending thousands of dollars on premium audio equipment shouldn’t have to wonder whether meaningful support will be available when something goes wrong.

The original post ended with this promise:

“HiFi Rose will continue to listen closely to the voices of our customers, uphold the commitments we make, and place customer satisfaction at the heart of everything we do.”

I think now would be an excellent opportunity for HiFi ROSE to demonstrate exactly what that means.

@ROSEHAN, respectfully, where do things stand today against the commitments HiFi ROSE made in this thread?

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