When using ROON have you noticed that you cannot use music you have stored locally if you lose your internet connection? For instance, you have a hard drive attached or maybe even the SSD in the RS130. If you lose your internet connection ROON will not give you access to that offline content. This has been confirmed by ROON since the 2.0 update. It doesnt just apply to the RS130 tho. It’s Roon using any device/media. So just be aware of that
No, I don’t know, thanx for advise! But in the last 5 years of using roon I had never this worst case situation. And if this should happen unexpectedly, I will use Rose Connect (or reboot my Internet router…
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I have never used Roon and never will, as my classical and jazz ‘albums’ do not adhere to any commercial format. Still I am a happy RS130 user (see above). I have had almost 10 streamers, and this one is the best so far for my purpose (mainly SQ). Just saying…
Yes it is a worst case scenario but it applies to countries where internet isnt as rock solid.
Not sure what you mean to say…
@bodiebill
Soundwise the RS130 is a stunner. But the software is really bad for daily use, that is my main complaint and that’s why I would not recommend. If one can handle or accept this, go for the RS130.
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Previously this was one of my favorite streamers or rather stand alone players.
I had to fiddle with SD cards and it only played wav and dff.
Compared to this I now have a Rose Royce
And the Earth is flat, because I can plainly see from my window that it is!
Sorry… You may perceive differences, but you might as well paint racing stripes on the streamer and believe that it would make transients faster. Neither would have any effect on sound waves.
“Don’t tell me that the Earth is round! I see that it is flat! Take your round Earth nonsense to astronomy forums!!!” 
Yes, indeed. I like the looks, that it is a single box, seemingly well built, and for my use case, it works. I’d rather spend my spare time listening to music, not assembling something similar out of multiple boxes.
Had I needed something that can manage my local library well, I would have looked at different soluition…
There’s much gnashing of teeth about that in Roon forums. If your internet goes down, Roon might keep playing for some indeterminate amount of time, but that’s about it. Search etc. have all been moved to “the cloud.” That’s why they still let you get 1.8 which only needs to phone home once a month or so for license check… But in extremal situations like that you could use even Rose Connect. Or any number of UPNP systems to play to Rose if you turn DLNA on…
If they are commercial CDs, chances are Roon would handle them OK. If they are super-obscure though, it would take quite a bit of manual editing to get them into a decent shape in Roon…
Yes Roon 1.8 becomes unuseable after the first of the year I read
I use roon (without knowing the offline problems) sincr 5 years without any problems, and I am using it often. But that’s my experience, doesn’t mean Roon is bug free.
My setup: Rose RS130 (prior Auralic Aries G2) <> 1G Ethernet <> Netgear Orbi Wifi Satellit <> Wifi 6 AC <> Netgear Orbi Wifi Router <> 1G Ethernet <> 2.5G/10G Switch <> 1G Ethernet <> Roon ROCK server <> 1G Ethernet <> 2.5G/10G Switch <> 10G Ethernet <> Synology NAS.
The Wifi Bridge between the mesh system has thruput up to 80MB/s, the Synology NAS DS1621+ has 32MB RAM/2TB Read/Write Cache, 10GB network card. Read / Write speeds are around 1GB/s.
Using Roon Server on the Synology NAS works also very good, but I had build my i7 NUC before purchasing the new NAS, so I keep it at it is.
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Not commenting on the shape of the earth, as this will certainly go nowhere…
But regarding ‘album’ formats:
For jazz my unit is a session, consisting of a certain date + certain personnel. This does most often not correspond one to one to any commercial issue.
For classical my unit is a single composition + performers + performance date. Here also, the correspondence with the commercial format is lost.
Both confuse Roon.
Was there an official announcement from Roon about that? I could have missed it, but I imagine it would have created a sh*tstorm in Roon forums…
No software is bug-free.
Yes, that would not be the normal use case for Roon. You could make it work, but whether it is worth the effort…
@BorisM
> Yes, that would not be the normal use case for Roon. You could make it work, but whether it is worth the effort…
I made it work in JRiver, using calcutated fieds etc. JRiver is much more customizable in this respect than Roon. And I can tell you that it was a lot of work. But now I am reaping the benefits on a daily basis.
I use Jriver only for database management and ofline convolution, not as audio player.
I can imagine. I got a few one-off or super-obscure albums into Roon, and they work well enough for me, but if my entiore collection were like that I would not have bothered.
I’m also a long time Roon user - and I don’t like the feature to be always online in order to use Roon.
But on the other hand, My music is stored on my NAS and this is independent to Roon. It could also be used with the Rose App - even it would take a lot of time, to generate the DB again in Rose.
I don’t care, because once Internet would go off globally, we have for sure other concerns than a running Roon. And there are still other ways to have a work around. So this does not bother me at all.
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The Leaf Audio sticks out 
Did you test it against other dacs?
Yes, before I had Lampizator, Terminator 2, Holo Spring 3 L2, Teac UD-701N and others. I prefer the CMD27 to all of those, especially after replacing the opamps by Burson or Staccato ones, which is easy to do (no soldering, just plug and play). This DAC is a steal. It also has a volume control (which I do not use) and balanced headphone output.
Thanks a lot. On a good day I think I can replace an opamp. How do you connect to rs130 - and is the rs130 the one clocking?
Mutec Ref10 SE120 external clock > 75 Ohm > RS130 > USB > fiber > USB > DAC
or
Mutec Ref10 SE120 external clock > 75 Ohm > RS130 > USB > fiber > USB > Audio-GD DI20HE DDC > I2S > DAC
for even more lush immersive spaciousness.
I also tried optical but this does not sound very good for some reason with this combo.
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I would highly recommend Rose 130, made an immediate improvement into my sound system. Ignore people who say there’s no difference, most of the time, when you investigate them they don’t have much knowledge about real world music, just pseudoscience. It’s the difference between a Steinway and a Baldwin. Yes the Baldwin can do the job and sound good doing it , but it will never be the Steinway.
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