Notice Regarding Spotify Lossless Support

Not even the highly regarded Eversolo has Spotify loss

Really?!

Grammophone,

Are you sure Eversolo doesn’t have Spotify lossless?
" Yes, the Eversolo DMP‑A8 supports Spotify Connect (so you can choose the A8 as the endpoint from the Spotify app). Headfonia+3Soundnews+3www.av.com+"

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Good for you and future customers then, I don’t have eversolo.

Funny, how EverSolo officially supports it and shows how to enable it using completely official device functionality, with no sideloading or workarounds, but some guy who doesn’t have one knows better. Of course.

Unfortunately there isn’t one so there’s no point in trying it

Man… is this true ?
That no Spotify lossless? Why ? Even my cambridge audio cxnv2 can play lossless…

I bought RS151 it’s in its way and I am reading this now that I have to buy another part ?

Yes you need another part, but don’t fret, it is wafer thin.

As long as you work on the issue, it’s good enough for me, I have both Qobuz and Tidal so there’s no stress😁. No other streamer can come close to Hi Fi Rose in the same price range anyway.

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Yes, Rose certainly has carved out a place in this price range for sure.

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Hello, Im the owner of a RS 130 here in Germany....the sound, the built of the housing and the large screen is indeed teasing and I enjoy it - no question. But apart from this the remaining (software) and implementation is not in the league of first class streamers but the price. This has been adressed a 1.000 times by users...but to be frank not much has happened from Rose side appart from the common excuses and promises...! How can it be, in particular when mentioned to be part of the Spotify design team, that a tool/device to enjoy lossless at Spotify will appear on the scene month later? No further info disclosed: price, decice, when etc. - only the usual Rose phrases. Its a pitty that Rose seems or is not willing to learn the lesson in a thousand years! Regards with a shaking head Oliver

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I am satisfied with the standard program from Hi-fi rose premium in which Tidal works without any problems, stores all my playlists in my Rose account without being tied to Tidal. I am satisfied with the sound quality of the rs130 with my chord Hugo TT2.

As a fresh owner of the newest RS451, I’m also VERY confused by the explanation of Hifi Rose. My cheap (compared to the RS451 ) Motorola smartphone Edge60, my Sony TV, allhave received support in the Spotify App for Spotify Lossless by now…
The hardware of the RSline is able to handle the technical audio specs of Spotify lossless just fine. Spotify Lossless is less heavy due to it’s limited sampling rate of 44.1kHz. It’s just a software update and registration process. If too cumbersome via the Connect Feature, why not offer Spotify as an Android app, as on every other Android based product… and let it auto-update on the Android eco system…

It blows my mind. If they would tell us, give us 6 months… OK then. But it seems they’re missing some in house knowledge to go through the “certifications”. But then suddenly DO support it on the to be released hardware dongle/box. What a brilliant solution… , not. I’m giving it a couple of days, because a I have some other issues emailed to support. If left like this, I’m going to return the RS451.

Ok,
Look, you are going to do what you’re going to do.

However, I am curious. As a Spotify user, where I can listen to lossless on my macbook, iPhone, iBasso DX180… I can only listen to HD on my Arcam Solo Uno and the RS520. Now for the $64,000.00 question. Which do you think sounds better? (besides the DX180 which depends on the paired headphones/iems.)

Now I could take my macbook (or iPhone ) and use USB to connect to the RS520, or the coax out on the DX180 to get Lossless in… [The macbook can upsample too…] But when you get down to it… I would be very hard pressed to tell the difference between HD and Lossless. In an ABX testing… I seriously doubt anyone here could do it.

You said RS451 which is an improvement over the RS520 sans amplification.
You could replace it w the Eversolo A10 and call it a day.

Outside of that… there are a few things the A10 does better, and there are a few things that are missing on the A10 that the Rose has… e.g. RoseTube.

If you had the RS520… and the most important feature was spotify lossless (and not sound…)
You could go w an Eversolo play and save a bit of cash. Of course you may have issues depending on your speakers and how hard it is to drive them.

But seriously… this is not really a killer issue. Just buy a good DAP that has a line out and call it a day. The upside… you’ll be able to take the Spotify lossless w you.

IMPORTANT: Spotify now supports lossless via their Apple TV app. If you’re running HDMI into a processor or AVR that handles room correction and DAC duties, you may not need a dedicated streamer at all. The Apple TV sends uncompressed PCM to your receiver. For my setup, the RS 130 became redundant. The expensive streamer wasn’t adding anything I could hear. Your mileage may vary with 2-channel setups.

I have to be honest. It felt good throwing my RS 130 in the trash. I tried selling it, no one bought it. I tried giving it away, no one took it :laughing: . So it’s getting recycled.

The RS 130 has arguably been the worst product, dollar for dollar, I have ever purchased in my life. Claims don’t match up with the actual product. The UX is a mess. There is no one there that is actually designing this with care. Take a look at Innous or Eversolo. Spot the difference? Regardless, I am willing to bet Spotify lossless over a digital signal renders this entire market moot for most users.

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Maybe the problem is not so much Spotify Lossless (and why would you buy anything more expensive than a Wiim to listen to Spotify in the first place) but paying so much for a device that does not do anything usegful and was never advertised as supporting Spotify Lossless in the first place?

so there is blueos for example. It never announced that Spotify lossless would be available. Then interestingly they solved it with the new update. You don’t have to buy a new product. You don’t have to buy an accessory. You don’t have to pay anything extra.
They simply solved it for free and quickly.

And then there is Rose. You buy it expensively, very slowly some separate device will come with it that will make Spotify lossless available, which of course you have to pay for.
Maybe this device will be a bluesound node? …

If it is a separate device, how will it be integrated into the current system?

By the way, I have a wiim device for multiroom - which is still not in rose… - it received the update in November and works lossless on it.

So if I look at it this way, there is already lossless Spotify on rose, you just need another device…

@bilanrylogic “no one bought it” - last I checked on Ebay, used Hifi Rose 130s had sold for 2-4 thousand. I’ll assume you were just venting your justified frustration, unless I hear otherwise

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“Sold for $2-4k” and “currently listed” are different things. eBay is littered with RS130s sitting unsold right now - that’s not evidence of demand, it’s the opposite. But if you’re so confident in that valuation, I’ll sell you mine for $1,000 today. Let me know.”

If you are in the US, you could donate it to charity and get a bigger tax deduction than $1000. And there are other outlets to sell audio equipment other than eBay.

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