I just got a new rs151, and really would like to have Spotify lossless, any news on this « fix » ??
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You give me a link to the thread I posted my message into ? I read this thread of course, and I saw no response to my question, on the other hand there are numerous messages of unhappy customers about this issue !!! I am now part of these really unhappy ones, really unhappy and disappointed
But what about Spotify in the highest quality? What good is it for people to supposedly improve Spotify if they have to pay to listen to music from this service in the highest quality? It’s absurd! You’ll be the only ones in the world who would give such a gift to their users.
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Spotify HQ works just not lossless.
If you want lossless now on Rose, you need to have a lossless source and connect via COAX or TOSLInk in.
Just read eversolo did a firmware update to get spotify for loseless. Surely can’t be that hard hifirose.
It can.
It depends on a couple of factors like which version of Android OS is being used along w what software library is being used.
If Spotify decides to no longer update an older release of the libraries on their older OSs it could mean no updated features like lossless.
You can and do get their HiRes but just not lossless…
If you want lossless, Rose is selling a new device that you can plug into the Rose.
Or if you have something like a DAP or a device that can do lossless you can use that.
I’ve done this w my iBasso DX180 DAP where the 3.5mm out doubles as the COAX out. So you just need a 3.5mm to COAX and then run an RCA SPDIF cable to the Rose. It works fairly well.
Its also a great way to add a headphone jack too. (Or you can get a $100 dongle to do the same and us USB out.)
As usual, Mikey is blathering about things he does not understand.
Android version in Rose devices is sufficient. The problem is that Rose would need to either find developers competent enough to write it all themselves those developers cost money) or license something from one of the official partners. That’s either spending a lot of money to support devices that have already been sold and accounted for or making a new product (most likely with something like Linkplay inside) and selling it to existing users again. Tough choice! 
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I agree Boris, this is all about cost savings as the company doesn’t not want to pay license fees and other expenses to support the installed base of legacy streamers. Instead they make an “External Connect Module” for Spotify HD and Tidal Connect where they will likely suck it up and pay the license fees that they will pass onto the purchasers of the new device. For those of you who think this device might be free of charge, you need to come back to reality.
I would hope that for future streaming products that Rose would follow the lead of other companies like McIntosh and support Qobuz Connect, Tidal Connect, Spotify Connect etc. and eventually give up on the inferior proprietary Rose Connect apps. And construct the units with swappable circuit boards in case of possible necessary hardware upgrades.
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I would somewhat disagree here – other companies also do have their own control apps (albeit generally better executed). At the very least each manufacturer wants their own branding (and support for whatever unique features they got) there.
On the other hand, the actual support for streaming services – yes – just license the bloody thing from Linkplay or something.
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Agree, I was just referring to the music streaming piece. Rose should and must have an app that controls its devices’ unique features.
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Boris,
As usual you clearly think you know more than you do.
Have you ever run an IT shop?
Have you ever run IT for a LoB?
You have no clue… and you clearly don’t understand what I’ve said and the decisions that go in to this.
What do you think the cost would be for Rose to go and upgrade from their release Android… which I believe it to be version 11 to version 12?
Unit tests, regression tests? Across the entire product line?
Not a small job and not an easy one.
But hey, you know everything.
Its not a question of cost savings.
Yes costs are an issue, but the problem is a much larger issue.
Too many people, like Boris, pretend to think they know what it takes to manage release trains. Or act as a program manager and product owner. Have you ever managed the P&L for a LoB or region?
Its not that simple.
Now weigh the costs of doing a major shift against the potential revenue loss by not having Spotify lossless.
Has Boris sold all of his Rose products? If he has, why is he still here?
If he hasn’t, then how important is Spotify Lossless to him?
Or to anyone else here?
What about all of those who use Tidal where there’s an actual app. Do they care about Spotify? Apple Music? Qobuz ?
Yeah… put this in perspective.
Also keep in mind that HiFi Rose’s primary market is South Korea.
So Boris, while you like to talk shite… you don’t know Rose’s financials so you can’t talk about their business decisions. You also don’t know what it takes to manage an IT department, let alone even a set of products. So give it a rest.
Go get your Eversolo Play and give us all a break.
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Jusdt significantly more than you. Not that it were difficult – you know nothing at all, and the only time you saw a computer was back in 1960 when they allowed you to wipe dust from a UNIVAC in a museum.
If you weren’t illiterate, in addition to ignorant, you’d have noticed that I have been saying for years that so far there is absolutely no reason for Rose yo mess with the Android version in their devices. But hey, reading comprehension requires as brain, so no dice for you.
Or they even ran them. Unlike someone like you who got fired from a janitor job.
Couldn’t care less. For the wider market it is important though.
You don’t need to prove that you are an ignorant clown ion every par
agraph. Your forum handle is sufficient warning that the post content is drivel.
And yes, ES Play, as purely music playing device, is superior to anything Rose currently makes. But the screen is smaller. :What a 
loser.
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Boris,
Do you need Rosehan to come in and shut this thread down because you keep trying to get your wiener smacked?
Keep your odd audiophile perversions to yourself.
As all audiophiles (after all, “audiophile” is just a rude way of saying “flaming idiot”) you are big on projecting (and you have a lot to project) but very short on facts.
Run complain to your mommy, too.
I really find it hard to believe you can’t agree with me about the recommendations for future products:
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Support the various streamers’ “Connect” apps. If that requires paying a license fee, pay it and pass it along to the consumer;
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Build modular components that allow for future hardware revisions or upgrades.
Yes I agree with what was written earlier that Rose will not spend to support legacy products, they will just continue to fashion in-house fixes. They and only they know how far they will go to do this.
If you think South Korea is Rose’s primary market you are mistaken. The money is in the US and European markets.
Rose makes beautiful to look at products that are maddening in practice because of the software. It strikes me that you and joyofmvid and duffer5 have all of the answers, so you should offer your services to Rose. As a Rose influencer, and that is what you also strike me as, you aren’t so good. Get your hands dirty, help Rose before they code themselves out of business.
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I tried. Sent the below to HIFI Rose on 11/5/25 and received zero replies.
@moderators @ROSEHAN @Rose_love
As you can see from the discussions here, the community’s dissatisfaction with HiFi Rose has grown significantly. For years, I’ve tried to offer timely, honest, and helpful feedback with the hope of preventing exactly the situation the company now finds itself in.
I’m still willing to join a Zoom call and share whatever insight might help stabilize things or steer you away from further missteps. But I also want to be transparent: at this point, it may be very late in the game. If things continue on their current trajectory, I’m genuinely concerned that HiFi Rose may not be able to sustain itself much longer—similar to what happened with Auralic.
My intention isn’t to criticize for the sake of it. It’s to help. But the urgency is real
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Trying to explain to you that its not a simple decision.
You have a global audience where South Korea is Rose’s primary target audience.
Notice how they have Korean specific products and a community?
(Boris would be booted for his behavior. )
The issue isn’t just cost of implementation, but the ROI.
Take Amazon Music. While Rose said that they were looking in to do it. They haven’t implemented it.
Why? There could be technical reasons along w financial reasons. What would their ROI be? Is AWS big in South Korea? What about the rest of the globe? In terms of the ‘audiophile’ market what percentage use Apple? Amazon? Tidal? Qobuz? and what else? Rose is a Korean company and while they do ship products globally its still a Korean first model.
The issue people raise is that so and so are doing spotify lossless. Ok. Eversolo is on the next release of Android than what Rose is on. If Rose were to go to Android 12. (I think that they are on 11 while other music companies are on Android 12) How much would it cost to make sure everything still works ?
The unit testing alone would be very expensive. Then there’s the question of the licensing costs and what happens when you have people who want to stay on the current release and not upgrade? How long does Rose do regression testing?
My point is that many who slam Rose on not having Spotify lossless don’t understand the issue and that from a manufacturer’s standpoint… they may say nope.
And then when you say … new products on a different release of Android? Sure. But think again of what that means in terms of suppot costs… (And yes eventually they’ll have to do it. )
If you think that’s bad… consider things like moving off of USB-B or USB-A to something like USB-C type 4 or later. (Or just USB-C)
Lots of moving parts.
I don’t know that Rose would suffer the same fate as Auralic.
Rose is a wholly owned subsidiary if my memory is correct.
We don’t know Rose’s cost structures or how much of the work is done in house or thru custom manufacturing. (e.g. Korean designed, Chinese built)
I wish you luck, but while the hardware is good, the issue is in the OS and apps. That’s a harder beast to tame.
The first question is how difficult would it be to migrate to Android 12 from 11. (Assuming again my memory is correct.) If they can do it with little pain… then it’s a question of getting it into the work stream as they continue to upgrade and offer new products.
Eversolo is now as expensive and they have the marketing and push into the US and EU markets. They have their products hitting the YT reviewers and they listen to the feedback.
Outside of Hifi Huff, I don’t know of many who have done reviews of Rose on a regular basis.