**Open Letter to HiFi Rose: The Community Deserves Better — Before It’s Too Late**

ROSEHAN

I have a few questions:

  1. When will the latest firmware update for the RS 151 be available?
  2. Is it possible to bold the song currently playing on the disc in the app?
  3. Is there a setting or software change for the RS 151 player so that when I connect an external USB input, the Rose RS 151 automatically switches to the player’s USB output?
    Instead of the current setting, where do I have to go into the player’s settings and switch to USB? Alternatively, if this option is available today, where can I find it in the settings?

I think these expectations are unwarranted and explained well in the responses. Nowhere are we promised continual software upgrades. Rose products may be computers, but Rose is not a computer company.

@Esteban
We have released version V 5.09.35, which fixes iOS app stability.
Please check after updating the App Store.

Oooh! That’s going to be a tough one.
Think about it. You plug a device in… and switch to it. Suppose you leave the device plugged in then switch it to another output device? When you turn the unit off or into standby… when you power up… automatically goes to the USB device … which you may not want so you have to manually switch it.

So you’re going to end up switching it back and forth anyway.

Unlike a headphone socket… where you know that if you plug it in… you will want to turn off your speakers and vice versa… USB or other in/out devices… aren’t that binary.

@ROSEHAN @moderators

At this point, it has become very clear that nothing is going to fundamentally change with HiFi Rose. The most concerning part is that this forum remains the only support channel the brand provides, yet instead of offering reliable guidance or meaningful technical assistance, the quality of support has steadily declined.

More and more users are reporting hardware issues, while the software continues to suffer from long-standing bugs, missing features, and minimal follow-through. Problems linger for months or even years without resolution, and the majority of updates lack depth, clarity, or substance.

What we have now is not a proper support system — it has become a user-driven troubleshooting space, where community members attempt to help each other with limited information. Too often, it feels like the blind leading the blind, because the company itself is not stepping in with the expertise or transparency needed to resolve these issues.

HiFi Rose once had the opportunity to become a standout brand, but without meaningful customer support, sustained software development, and consistent engagement, that potential is slipping away. The community deserves better. Right now, it is painfully evident that the commitment to real improvement simply isn’t materializing.

@duffer5

Duffer5 Wrote:
@ROSEHAN @moderators ,

Thank you for the response, but I need to be direct: this reply does not meaningfully address the core concerns raised in the open letter, nor does it reflect the level of transparency and accountability the community has repeatedly requested.

Your message essentially re-states the same generalized explanations we’ve seen for years — explanations that have not translated into visible improvement, follow-through, or clearer communication. The community’s frustration is not about a single feature or delay; it is about a long-standing pattern of non-specific answers, shifting timelines, and limited engagement.

To be clear:

1. “Not technically feasible” and “internal priorities” have become blanket phrases.

These statements are offered without detail, context, or explanation. Competitors with less expensive hardware have solved problems that HiFi Rose continues to call “challenging.” The community is asking for clarity, not generic reassurances.

2. Bug fixes are expected — not a substitute for progress.

Saying “we are continuously improving stability” is not an answer to why advertised features, long-promised integrations, and long-standing requests still have no concrete timetable or resolution.

3. Tidal connect and to a lesser degree Spotify Lossless has been discussed for years with no roadmap.

The community is aware that Tidal Connect and Spotify’s SDK is restricted — but other brands have already implemented the feature or communicated clear timelines. HiFi Rose continues to offer no transparent update beyond “it is challenging,” which is not sufficient at this stage.

Announcing yet another external module (RW800) does not address the concern that existing users feel abandoned and do not want additional hardware to compensate for incomplete software.

4. The refusal to publish a roadmap is exactly the problem.

Saying “it does not align with company policy” is simply confirming the core issue: the community is being asked to trust without visibility. A premium brand should not ask customers to operate in the dark regarding basic development priorities.

5. Communication delays remain unexplained.

You acknowledge gaps in communication, yet the explanation remains the same as always. The community is not asking for instant answers — we are asking for consistent, proactive, and substantive updates. Those have not materialized.

6. The RS720 response continues the pattern.

Instead of acknowledging the widespread problems documented by users, the reply shifts the focus to whether I personally use the device — as if the community concerns are less valid. These issues affect many users, and the expectation is that HiFi Rose addresses them publicly and transparently.

The core point remains unchanged:

HiFi Rose publicly stated it was moving in a “better direction.”

Since that statement, communication has decreased, transparency has not improved, and user confidence has continued to erode.

Nothing in your reply demonstrates a change in approach.

The community isn’t asking for perfection.

We’re asking for:

  • Concrete information
  • Clear priorities
  • Regular updates
  • Transparency about limitations
  • Follow-through on commitments
  • Respect for the time and loyalty of your customers

These are not unreasonable expectations for a premium brand.

HiFi Rose has tremendous potential, but potential means nothing without execution — and the window to retain the trust of long-time users is getting smaller by the week.

I hope this time the pattern breaks. But your reply thus far reads like more of the same.
@duffer5

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Oooh! That’s going to be a tough one.
Think about it. You plug a device in… and switch to it. Suppose you leave the device plugged in then switch it to another output device? When you turn the unit off or into standby… when you power up… automatically goes to the USB device … which you may not want so you have to manually switch it.

So you’re going to end up switching it back and forth anyway.

Unlike a headphone socket… where you know that if you plug it in… you will want to turn off your speakers and vice versa… USB or other in/out devices… aren’t that binary.

@duffer5

I’m reading a lot of complaints & demands but you have not expressed any problems you are having.

Please, can you list your most critical problems. This will help me understand why your frustrated and will help me justify your demands on HiFi Rose.

AFAIK, going back to version 5.09.07 was the solution for RS151 (If my memory is correct, HiFi Rose said the version 5.09.09 update was not meant for the RS151.

Steve_H

It’s also worth noting that many RS 151 devices have been purchased to date, and nowhere on the forums do they report poorer sound after the update, except for a few people here. My two friends and I bought an RS 151 over the summer. They updated to the latest version and haven’t noticed any sound degradation. I stuck with the older firmware, and overall, we’re all happy, regardless of the fact that we have different firmware on the device.

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RS150B
With the latest software update, I had to reinstall the whole thing new, cause I was asked for passwords to change Wifi/Ethernet connection and other things that were never restricted with passwords.
Okay, other issues: I´m still waiting to change cover photos on the harddisk with Ipad or Iphone. Does this work now, after 3 years waiting, or not ? → I´m still waiting for that to get all my CD´s on harddisk.
When will amazon music be implemented ?

I hate fuking software idiots who implement new things I do not need instead of working on old problems.

I thought you sent your unit back to Korea? Or was that someone else?

Yeah… I think that if they are going to offer specific downloads they should make them available for download on their site, besides pushing them out to the units. Even then… you have to power off and then power on your unit in order to know that there’s an upgrade ready. So if its always on but in sleep mode… you don’t see the upgrade as available.

So you say you know what caused it.
Good, but here’s the thing.
You’re saying its 100% on Rose.
But we know that’s not the case. If it were, then it would happen w other amps.
It happened in your chain. So its that combination of components.

LOL…

I think you missed my point.
Pas de quois.

Rose, the truth is that for years you’ve been doing nothing but saying it’s difficult and we have to wait. Meanwhile, your competition, sometimes with devices that cost a fraction of your products’ value, keeps up with changes and somehow manages to introduce all the new features. You want to position yourselves as a premium brand, but the operation of your devices resembles that of devices from the '90s. You’ve been unable to launch Tidal Connect for five years, telling frustrated users that we have to wait because it’s difficult. Meanwhile, Tidal Connect has been a competitor for years, even in devices priced at $100, and I still don’t have my $250 Rose, which cost over $3,000 the day I bought it. Now, lossless Spotify Connect has appeared. I was hoping it might be manageable, but I’m already hearing that it’s difficult, so I know perfectly well it will be like Tidal Connect. So there’s no point in making excuses; you either finally start keeping up with the rest of the world, or you can stop deceiving users with unfulfilled promises.

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Well, that’s not going to happen. That means new hardware… Rose’s little magic box.

For me, as a non-Spotify user, it’s simply ridiculous.

Rose, please give me an RS520 for $500 and I’ll consider getting a Wii M or Eversolo instead.

It’s just laughable, so much money for these devices and they’re practically paperweights.

Dear HiFi Rose users

We have created a new section in the HiFi Rose Community called Software Feedback Journal.
This will allow us to share the progress of ongoing issues more transparently, and provide clear updates on the problems users are experiencing.

Going forward, we aim to improve through small but continuous changes and transparent communication.

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You need a section for hardware as well as your products are failing at a concerning rate, (given that this public forum is the only visibility we get into problems / failures) including your newly introduced RS451. Future buyers should be aware of the risk in buying a HiFi Rose products.

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Sorry you didn’t like the RS520.

I think that you’re going to find a bit of a trade off.

On the one hand you could spend a lot more for an AIO (All in One) and get some better components.
Newer features since the RS520 is a couple of years old in terms of design and components. I believe most of the major brands offer some form of an AIO.

Or you could spend less and get an Eversolo Play. It has a better UI interface… but when it comes to components. There are compromises. The amp isn’t as good. The RS520 has a really good GaNFET that will do 250wpc at 8 ohms and more at 4, but its stated rating is also 250wpc too. The ESS dac chip is pretty good, and does the job.

Where the RS520 has issues:
external wifi and bt combo dongle. Its limited to BT 4.2 and wi-fi 5.x This isn’t bad but if they allowed and supported separates you could get BT 5.x and wi-fi 6 or later. The only issue would be the device drivers. (Note that the RS451 has built in BT and wi-fi)

The UI is also a sore point.
There are other issues… but the non-intuitive nature of the UI is probably the biggest issue.

The remote is also problematic. I find using the Rose app on my iPad or macbook to be a better UI than the remote.

Also some of the features seem a little gimmicky.
The HDMI out for example. (eARC is in… not out.)

Also a lack of features. (e.g Parametric EQ, balance, and room correction)

There are some better options out there… albeit at a higher price point where you also have tradeoffs.
Lyngdorf is a good example.

One thing to note on this thread.
Something positive.

In a separate thread on the RS520 ‘channel’ I raised an issue about a potential problem w airplay.

I’ve noticed that occasionally airplay would drop intermittently or connect but no sound.
@Rose_love and @ROSEHAN were responsive on the thread, asking questions… attempting to see if they had any issues. They tried to use airplay for several hours to see if they could reproduce it.

What I’ve found so far is that when using iOS 16.x on my iPad… no issues. Not with any device on my network. With my iPhone running 26.x and my macbook also running 26.x, there were issues.
Had trouble connecting to devices and w the RS520 … it would drop but I could reconnect.

This leads me to believe there’s an OS issue on the Apple side of things.

While the issue hasn’t been completely resolved… the point is that Rose has been proactive and attempting to help. Its something positive.

Yes there are issues with some products that need to be resolved. But rather than constantly bashing them, we should at least acknowledge when they try to do the right thing.

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While there are “good GanFETs” out there (good meaning that aren’t significantly worse than what Purify or Hypex are doing), RS520’s is only adequate. It’s not bad, but one could easily find a stand-alone power amp with better output and better specs for less money (including the price of EverSolo) than what 520 costs.

Just like in EverSolo.

Not much of a limitation for music listening.

It does have PEQ. Limited number of frequencies, but PEQ nonetheless.