(+) / (-) rose rs130

@J2ordan Thanks for posting. And at €4799 the 130 will be pricer than the 150b. I am confused by this. If you use the 150b as a streamer only you essentially have the 130 and you can buy a fiber media convertor to obtain that noiseless optical / ethernet benefit for under $100, no need for a liner power supply as the 150b has a good one included and as far as the oven baked clock, the average user would never know (only measurements will tell the full story with Jitter results).

So this either means I have missed something with the 130’s value proposition (which is more possible than not) or the 150b is a total bargain compared to the 130. The natural comparisons with the 130 vs 150b will be hitting the reviewer streams sooner vs later. I will be curious what their take will be on the 130’s value proposition.

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US spec sheet is up: HiFi ROSE

Differences:
150’s Dispay IPS vs 130’s Display TFT 14.9in / 15.4in
150’s CPU = 130’s CPU
150’s GPU = 130’s GPU * T864 / T860
(Mali-T860 is a configurable product which chip manufacturers can size to meet their needs. Mali-T864 is a 4 core Mali-T860. Note that Arm’s official name for this would be “Mali-T860 MP4”, but some chip manufacture datasheets use the short-hand Mali-T864 name)
150’s Memory LPDDR3 @4gb vs 130’s LPDDR4 @4GB
150’s has no cache vs 130’s NVMe SSD 256GB
150’s ethernet standard interface vs 130’s SFP (150 can externally get same feature w/ FMC conversion kit)
150 has no clock input vs 130’s 75/50 clock input (Debatable Feature as most high end DAC’s have external word clock inputs)
150 Voltage controlled femto internal clock vs 130 oven baked clock 0.38 / 0.3 PPM (virtually identical)
150 Fuse T3.15Al / 250v vs 130’s 6A Thermal Circuit Breaker

150’s Storage Interface:
USB3.0x2, micro SDx1, SSDx1

130’s Storage Interface
USB3.0x2, SATAx1, USB 3.0 Fiber
(No internal storage for the 130 except for the onboard 256gb SSD, I could be wrong as they do reference SATA but no donation to location)

Per the marketing message from Rose the 130 is superior to the 150 due to Fiber isolation for the ethernet signal, USB fiber isolation which reduces noise further, Oven baked clock for increased audio timing / synchronization, linear power supply with high capacity super capacitor and word clock inputs for external master synchronization. I will leave the display features open to your opinion as I view that spec as a downgrade. (I guess this is the value proposition).

The one major issue I have is the discussion on the upgraded Linear Power supply is implying the 150’s LPS is inferior and without super capacitor. The 150B does have a high quality LPS with super capacitor.

I am sure there is more that I missed but these are the obvious ones…

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In Spain is already announced. No units for sale, and the price tag is 50% higher than the 150b

Wondering if the 130 supports smb v3 ???
It should support it for this amount of money but I’m afraid the firmware is similar to the 150

  1. Streamer ->Tuner->Dac
    vs
  2. Streamer (-Preamp-Tuner - TFT + Optical wiring+power supply + better clock) =<0 euro vs No1

Shouldn’t this combination result in a lower rather than higher price?

Also I noticed this for the RS 130 " dedicated Apple Music app that streams hi-res content bit-perfectly will be a major drawcard" Is this for the RS 130 only?

pictures are from web …

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Beautiful!
Those are some really nice cables.
When did you get it?
What DAC are you using?
How does it compare to the 150B?

Perhaps an embarrassing question, will I be able to connect to the web with an ordinary RJ45 connector?

Hello, I found pictures from web.
My opinion pictures are from Germany High End Munich 2023 exhibition …

Yes, you will be able to connect with RJ45. The RS130 comes with an adapter to convert from optical to RJ45.

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Smb v2 is what is listed in the specs for the RS130.

@ROSELOA What connection do you recommend for the RS130 when USB, AES/EBU and I2S are all available on the eternal DAC?

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my opinion at first I2S, second USB, third AES/EBU.
Notice: my last connect on brand streamer was with I2S connect (the more quality short 0.7m HDMI cable) with DAC Denafrips Terminator II. Sound was amazing.

Keeping in mind that the 150/130 only have two i2s output profiles. JAVS and PS Audio. Make sure your external DAC can use either or you will need to purchase a digital to Digtal convertor that sits between your 150/130 and your external DAC.

The fact is, however, RS130 do not have potential for further upgrade when there is no fuse room for interchangeable to a premium one, as the RS150.

This is the fuse priced at US$25,000!

Has anyone compared the sound of the streamer rose RS 130 with the competition, e.g. Aurender A15?
The RS150B failed this test for me in terms of sound and software with the Aurender Conductor application. I realize that the competition is twice as expensive…
How important it is for me that the product also looks nice on the RS130, I haven’t told you yet…

With the 150b you can use Roon software as your interface and it works perfectly. You could buy a lifetime subscription and still save $$$$ over the Aurender line. That being said I too would like to know how the 130 sounds. I suspect the sound profile will be the same as the 150b.

I still believe that the RS130 will sound better than the RS150B (must)…

I will let you know soon…
Did order it, paid for it and now waiting for delivery :truck:

In my country (Slovak Republic) I can’t order yet … :frowning:
I am waiting on your report soon !