At the test was me and few friends of mine ,all had same conclusion.
How you can level match when u use only one DAC ?the output from Mola Mola is the same no matter streamer I use.
If u are able to compare RS150 vs RS130 I am sure your findings will be the same.
By the way , RS130 is tested also online by professionals with same results…check out Steve Huff test also in his top 10 products of 2023.
So, a sighted test with mutual reinforcement. You can “hear” absolutely anything in those.
Since you are claiming the analogue signal is different (and noticeably so)m why would levels be identical?
Yes, that the sound is the same. As well as 250 and 520. If it were different, it would mean that people who design DACs and digital audio systems have no idea what they are doing,
There are clowns on the internet who will rate any product as the “best in the world” if they get a free sample (until the next freebie comes in, of course).
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Thanks for your writing. I thought for a long time whether I should answer.
The only way is to test yourself - if you don’t hear anything “better” - then its maybe not the right product.
Each one of us has a different hearing, which has an influence to the things you call psycho acoustics.
I understand the meaning of psycho acoustics, and often things like this happen to anyone of us (like when you do a test, and its already clear that you want it so much).
But you cannot say, that everything is psycho acoustics. It depends how well you are trained with the ability to hear details within your setup, your room etc.
When I finish a test listening (which takes several days, as my hearing is not same every day) I have to decide, if the tested product elevates my Setup a step up or not.
If there are no differences at all - it is not worth the money - if the differences are subtle or little, then I have to choose, is it worth the amount of money for just a little bit. Sometimes, a blind test can help.
If you can’t hear any difference, then its your hearing that counts, and that’s fine for me - but anyone has a different room, different Setup with different Speakers, Amps etc, - and some of us can hear differences, small and big ones (like Laptop to DAC, vs Rose RS150), and for those people, your arguments simply are not true, as we proved it for ourselves.
Comparing measurements was never part of my hobby - I trust my ears.
I use my setup to listen music - not music to listen to my setup.
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When my local dealer has a RS130 on stock, I will lend it to test in my room.
I could re-use my RS150 in my 2nd listening room, so I would keep both.
I use already an external DAC Board (within my Soulution 330 INT) and found it a little bit better than the AKM DAC in my 150. The RS150 adds a bit too much Bass compared to the Soulution Board - but this is only in my room with my setup.
So I’ll give the RS130 a try. Thanks
RS 130 was #2 product of the year for Steve Huff.
For me, it was #1.
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I haven’t seen all his Videos, but for some products, I came to similar conclusion as he did.
But as I wrote - all that helps is test it for yourself.
Ah, yes, the good old “your system isn’t resolving enough and you don’t have muh golden ears” song and dance.
Despite having “psycho” in the name, psychoacoustics is an actual science. And it does not work the way you think it works.
When you listen to a setup for several days it only shows whether you like (perception) whatever you paid big money for. In a week you can convince yourself, unconsciously, that you like or do not like something based on an number of factors none of which have anything to do with the physical phenomenon of sound waves emanating from your speakers. Subjective stuff. If it makes you happy, enjoy your system, but it says absolutely nothing about there being any real difference between two components.
The only way to determine if there is an actual difference between two components is to perform rather extensive measurements. To determine if there is any audible difference is to do a proper (level-matched etc.) blind test. Which needs to be done within minutes. No one can remember subtle details of a sound even over tens of minutes, let alone days. If you reliably hear a difference in an ABX test, it exists. If you don’t, it does not. All that you have “proven” to yourself is that you want to believe that you did not waste your money.
Incidentally, speakers, room acoustics etc. have no bearing on anything that happens from your source component all the way to DAC’s output. Connected to the same source, same DAC in my room will output exactly the same signal as it does in yours.
Besides, saying that, assuming at least an asynchronous USB connection (so we don’t have to deal with source vs. DAC clocking and jitter in crap legacy interfaces like S/PDIF and I2S), using a different source to the same DAC would produce materially different output goes against all the science used to actually develop those DACs. It’s an extraodrinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. Should we believe people who invented digital audio or people who want to either sell you something, or to convince themselves that they did not waste good money on buying something useless through a completely meaningless experiment that demonstrates nothing?
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