Update pls? About to sell this thing.
Ok, is there a specific reason the community is not getting a response to this question @ROSEHAN @ROSELOA? Have you been directed not to respond to this topic? This is the only forum to get customer support but yet there is no customer support for certain topics. How does this benefit the customer? The last update was October 11th.
Works!! I just updated roon to the latest version. I went into settings an enabled the Rose RS130 and now I am listening music from Roon to the RS130!
What would you need an app for? All you need is the Roon server, and the Rose on the same subnet, so it can be discovered.
BorisM,
You’re right of course. After creating the post, I figured it out.
Maybe my subconscious was wishing for an app just like there is for Apple Music which would allow direct access to Roon through a Rose Store app system to integrate it. That wish doesn’t make sense because Roon is an aggregator just like HiFi Rose so that would be an aggregator on top of an aggregator. However, I really do like their interface. It’s intuitive deep and beautiful. Soooo I have two programs on my iPad at my listening area, RoseConnect and Roon. I also use Chromecast so that works as well.
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Right… It would be neat if you could have the actual Roon Remote running right on the Rose, but that’s not quite what Roon Ready certification implies, and I am not aware of any streamer that does it. In any case it would require Roon (or Samsung 
) to create a custom version of Android Roon client that integrates with Roses’s UI and architecture, and that seems unlikely… Wouldn’t be super-straightforward either.
Boris,
Absolutely true…BUT it really would be nice.
Unfortunately, not going to happen unless Eversolo does it.
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I like this idea as well but from my understanding those companies that have built in “roon cores,” suffer from two major issues, excessive heat and reduced audio quality."
In my humble opinion keeping the RS130 pure and having the ROON core separate makes for an optimal audio experience. Roon core does not require a lot of processing power but I would rather have the RS130’s processing power dedicated to the stream itself vs the stream and the roon core.
I could be totally off base here but I thought I would just offer my 2 cents.
Roon Core is the server. It does require some reasonable processing power (more than a phone CPU has), memory, and storage. And yes, it does emit much more heat, although sound quality with any semi-competent design would be exactly the same.
But we’re not talking about running the Roon Core on the Rose, just the Roon Remote, which is just a simple app that does run fine on phones (Android or iOS). Wouldn’t be much different from Tidal or Qobuz apps on the Rose presently. The only problem is that Roon would need to make it (or release enough code and info to a third party, which, especially after the acquisition, isn’t too likely).
Oh I see, my mistake. I can see the value in that as well. I use an iPad as well as the pictured setup as my Roon Remote. So I guess I didn’t experience any shortcomings.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how Roon expects you to use it. But if you’re by the Rose messing with VU meters or something, being able to select something to play would have been nice…
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Question regarding RS130 and Roon.
I own a RS150, and use a dedicated external DAC with it.
Is the RS130 only better sounding when you use the internal SSD (local) or will it sound better even with Roon?
As I would stay on the external DAC anyway, I’m curious if the RS130 is still superior when I just use it as a Streamer within my Roon Setup?
Many Thanks
Hello,
RS130 is better than RS150 in every way, especially sound wise ,it is in a different league.
I tested both , actually all of them.
Hope it helps.
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As you can see, people will tell you that a streamer can produce (different league, night and day, wife heard it from the kitchen) difference in the sound of an external DAC. The more they paid for a streamer, the more “difference” will be claimed.
In reality and based on all the principles used to actually develop digital music, DACs, and streamers, with a USB connection to DAC (so source clock differences are irrelevant) and assuming that both devices are operating within spec (not just passingwwhatever analogue noise is on the connection straight to analogue output) there will be absolutely no difference in sound from thr same DAC no matter what you are using to feed it, be it RS130, RS150, RS250, or an old laptop with USB out.
RS130 is a purely digital device, it can not and does not have any “sound” unless you are applying some changes to the digital data.
When using S/PDIF or I2S leftover connections from 1980s, where the clock is controlled at the source and jitter could be an issue, albeit most likely inaudible, there theoretically could be some difference in the output. Probably not anything a human could hear, but at least some.
Whether the data is coming from Roon, some streaming service, or an SSD is quite irrelevant (spinning disk could have theoretically produce some analogue noise picked up by the analogue output, but this would not be the case in a well-designed product, and Rose hardware is well-designed, and RS130 does not have any analogue subsystems anyway).
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In realtime listening environment- I have the rs 130 feeding into a chord scaler to hugo tt- using Roon as the source vs streaming directly from the 130, the Roon feed we were waiting for sounds infinitely better and was worth the wait of verification to open up the feed.
People love to throw the numbers around, and that’s great, but sound is sound and it just flat out sounds better, to me.
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When compared RS150 vs RS130 i wasn’t expecting to be a big difference,BUT it is.
I compared RS130 also with Aurender N200 and RS130 was better again.
I don’t know what Rose did with RS130 but i am sure the internal parts are the best they have regarding Network Transport.
All our tests was sending signal to Mola Mola Tambaqui,as a reference DAC .
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Was it a level-matched blind test? If not, results are absolutely meaningless.
Mola Mola is one of the best-made DACs you can get, it just can not be affected by anything upstream as long as it is not terribly broken, and neither Rose nor Aurender should be broken. It’s pretty much the same as saying that if you plug RS130 into your network and then visit your bank, your balance will be twice as large
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“Sound” is a psychoacoustic phenomenon, it’s all in the head. One can “hear” the difference even from putting magic crystals on top of loudspeakers. The actual signal to loudspeakers (and sound waves produced) is a physical phenomenon that can be measured far more precisely than anything a human can hear. Those are not affected in any way by a digital streamer. If they were, Nobel committee would go broke awarding multiple prizes a year to audiophile manufacturers.
Something like Chord can make a difference in sound (more likely than not toward less accuracy, but it could be pleasant, like tube distortion). A streamer – not.
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Right, it still sounds better to me.