RS130 output groups settings are synchronized instead of independent

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#1

I am writing to report an issue with my ROSE RS130 streamer. I believe this may be a firmware or software bug related to output settings. According to the documentation, the output groups should be configurable independently. However, in my case the settings are synchronized across groups. When I change output parameters for one output group, the same settings are applied synchronously to all output groups.

The affected settings are:

  • PCM Resampling
  • DSD Mode
  • MQA

The groups do not appear to keep independent values, although the documentation suggests they should be configurable separately. I have tried changing the settings both on the RS130 itself and through the ROSE Connect app, but the behavior is the same in both cases. The issue remains the same: whenever I modify the settings for one output group, the same parameters are mirrored to the other groups. I am unable to keep separate values for each group, even though the documentation suggests they should be independent.

What I have already tried:

  • Changed settings from the RS130 screen
  • Changed settings from ROSE Connect
  • Rechecked after saving the configuration
  • Verified that the behavior is identical in both interfaces
  • Factory reset and repeat the previous points

This is very inconvenient, since my setup uses two DACs. And they have different settings:

  1. The DAC is built into the preamplifier-processor Integra DRC-R1 (hi-end version Onkyo PR-RZ5100), connect via Coaxial Cable and HDMI
  2. The DAC is an external Hegel D-50, connect via USB

Device information:

  • Model: ROSE RS130
  • Firmware version: 5.9.09
  • Control method used: RS130 screen and ROSE Connect app

Connected output type: USB / Coaxial / HDMI

Expected behavior:

  • Each output group should retain its own independent settings.

Actual behavior:

Settings are synchronized across all output groups.

If this is a known limitation, I would appreciate clarification. Could you please confirm:

  1. Whether independent settings for each output group are supported on the RS130.
  2. Whether this is a known issue in the current firmware.
  3. Whether a firmware update or workaround exists.
  4. Could a repeat firmware update solve this problem? If true, where can I find the firmware for installation via USB?
  5. Can an XMOS/Audio MCU update solve this problem? If true, where can I find the XMOS/MCU Update option file for installation via USB?
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#2

@Yury

After reviewing your inquiry, we would like to clarify that the PCM Resampling, DSD Mode, and MQA settings on the RS130 are currently designed to operate as global audio output settings. As a result, these parameters are synchronized across all output groups rather than being stored independently for each output interface.

Therefore, the behavior you are experiencing is not caused by a firmware malfunction or hardware defect. The current firmware applies these settings system-wide, and separate values for USB, Coaxial, and HDMI outputs are not supported at this time.

Regarding your additional questions:

  1. Independent PCM Resampling, DSD Mode, and MQA settings for each output group are currently not supported on the RS130.
  2. This is not a known firmware issue but rather the intended behavior of the current software architecture.
  3. At present, there is no workaround that allows different values to be maintained for each output group.
  4. Reinstalling the firmware will not change this behavior, as it is not caused by firmware corruption or an installation problem.
  5. XMOS or Audio MCU updates will also not change this behavior, as these settings are managed by the main system software.

We understand that this limitation may be inconvenient, especially in systems utilizing multiple DACs with different requirements. We appreciate your feedback and will forward your request to our development team for consideration in future software improvements.

Thank you for your understanding and continued support of HiFi ROSE.

#3

Dear ROSEHAN,
Thank you for your reply. However, Iā€™m sorry. Your documentation states that groups store independent values ā€‹ā€‹and can be configured separately. If all groups had the same settings, they should be placed in a separate menu and the ā€œgearsā€ (settings) specified for each group should be removed. This is somehow illogical and contradicts your documentation. I also donā€™t understand what global audio outputs are. As I understand it, if a device has different types of audio outputs, I should be able to connect them to other components in my setup according to their parameters. Why then define an output group if all the parameters are the same? Then you could output sound to all devices at once, without selecting a specific audio output, as in your coaxial group.
And, me as a former systems programmer in my youth, I donā€™t understand the difficulty in saving the parameters to three different files instead of one. This can be easily fixed and brought into line with your documentation (your public offer).
Why not do this?
What was your goal in combining all the settings? What does it give you? What is the purpose of this?

#4

Thank you for your reply. One more question:

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After I installed the new firmware (Firmware version: 5.9.09), Qobuz Connect became unavailable. It worked in the original version (before the update). After the update, it stopped working. After trying to enter the login and password, it displays a message (see attached file) and enters an infinite loop (ā€œspins the wheelā€). However, on the Eversolo A-8, which I also have, Qobuz Connect works fine.
What Iā€™ve already tried:
ā€¢ Factory reset
ā€¢ Cleared cache
ā€¢ Cleared data
ā€¢ Tried connecting via VPN
Nothing helps. Thereā€™s no streaming. Qobuz Connect isnā€™t working. What should I do?
I really hope for your help and advice. Thank you in advance.

#5

@Yury

We apologize for the inconvenience.
Please help us check a few things:

  1. When you say that Facebook login does not work for your Qobuz account on the RS130, are you also unable to log in to Qobuz through the RoseConnect app?
  2. If you are unable to log in to Qobuz on both your RS130 and the ROSECONNECT app, could you please take screenshots of the screens shown in each case and share them with us?

On our side, when accessing Qobuz through the ROSE ONE app, all login methodsā€”including Facebook loginā€”are available.
Please also share a screenshot of what you see on your ROSE ONE app.

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#6

Dear ROSEHAN,
I donā€™t use Google, Apple, or Facebook to log into Qobuz, as my personal and work email arenā€™t linked to them. I only use the personal email and password from my official subscription Qobuz. When I click on Qobuz on the RS-130 screen, the exact image you provided in your email appears. The ā€œinfinite wheelā€ spins over this image. Attempting to enter the email and password fields is impossible, more for sure the PC-130 allows me to type login and password , but the endless spinning wheel never stops and nothing happens.

#7

@Yury

Additionally, when you try to log in through the RoseConnect app connected to your RS130 (rather than directly on the RS130 itself), does the same infinite loading wheel appear?

Could you please let us know what happens when you attempt to log in to your Qobuz account through the RoseConnect app?

Any details about the behavior you observe would be helpful for our investigation.

Thank you.

#8

Yes. I was able to connect via ROSE Connect. Thank you so much for your help and advice.
Since I experimented a lot to find a solution and changed a lot of things in the setup, I decided to reset the settings to factory defaults and clear the data. And after starting the installation from scratch, I still couldnā€™t access Qobuz on the ROSE RS130 itself, and again, it was only possible via ROSE Connect. However, this is a bug. Will it be fixed in the new software version announced for June 29, 2026?
By the way, when trying to change output groups, the ROSE PC130 displays the message: ā€œAre you sure you want to change the output? Output parameters will be changed.ā€ So, according to your manual and these messages, the outputs should be independent. This is also a bug. I kindly ask you to at least create two groups, for example, USB and everything else. Itā€™s very important to me. When can we expect this fix?

#9

@Yury

We apologize for the inconvenience you are experiencing.

We would like to ask a few questions regarding the issues you mentioned:

  1. It is unusual that Qobuz can be accessed through the ROSE Connect app but not directly on the RS130.
    Could you please try uninstalling the Qobuz app from the Rose Store on your RS130 and then reinstalling it? Does the same issue still occur after reinstalling?
  2. When the message below appears on your RS130:

ā€œAre you sure you want to change the output? Output parameters will be changed.ā€

would it be possible for you to send us a photo or screenshot of this message?

#10

It was my experience that Qobuz could only be accessed through RoseConnect. When I tried through the touchscreen it was an endless series of Captcha and the spinning wheel. One learns to adapt though. Yury, use the app, that is what Rose spends its time on working to improve.

#11

@Eleven

If your RS130 is connected to the ROSE Connect app and you are logged into your Qobuz account within the ROSE Connect app, the RS130 should automatically be logged into Qobuz as well.

Are you experiencing different behavior than this?

If so, could you please record a video showing the issue and send it to the email address below?

eunseong96@citech.kr

Once we review the video, we will investigate the issue and work on a fix if necessary.

Thank you for your cooperation.

#12

Sorry Rosehan, I no longer own the 130. I am just stating what I found to be true from the period of ownership. I could not log onto Qobuz using the touchscreen. Without fail, every time. Yes I deleted the Qobuz app and reinstalled it and that solved nothing. But if I logged onto Qobuz using the Connect app I got in without a hitch. Perhaps this ā€œtouchscreenā€ bug has been resolved, perhaps not, but my advice to Yury is to use the app to log on until then.

#13

@Eleven

Logging into Qobuz directly on the RS130 is not supported. This is not a bug.

To use Qobuz on the RS130, please connect the RS130 to the Rose Connect app and log in to your Qobuz account through the Rose Connect app. Once you do that, your Qobuz account will be synchronized with the RS130 automatically.

Thank you for taking the time to share your experience in such detail. We really appreciate your feedback.

#14

You are welcome. It was my experience that the RS130 did allow you to attempt to logon to Qobuz from the touchscreen, but perhaps this has changed in the intervening several months since I parted with the unit. I will defer to a current owner of an RS130 who listens to Qobuz. Because if the RS130 does allow you to attempt to logon from the touchscreen even though this feature is not supported, that feature needs to be removed and replaced with a message that states that the user must use the app (Rose Connect or Qpbuz Connect) to access his account.

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#15

@Eleven

After checking with our software team, we have confirmed that, except for the RS451 and RS151, the browser versions used in our other devices are outdated, so logging in directly on the Rose device is expected to remain difficult going forward.

As a result, we have internally agreed to display a pop-up message that guides users to log in through the Rose Connect app whenever a sign-in is required.

Thank you for sharing your valuable feedback with us. We truly appreciate it.

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