RS130 Roon Ready certification has been completed

ROSE NOTICE Notice
#1

Dear Hi-Fi Rose users

RS130 Roon Ready certification has finally been completed.
We apologize once again for keeping you waiting for a long time.

Roon certification and registration period took longer than expected, so certification completion was delayed.
https://roon.app/ko/partners/142/hifi-rose

You can use it by registering RS130 in Roon Core–>Settings->Audio->Roon Ready device list.

image
image1600×903 146 KB

#1 The Roon Ready feature can only be used if Roon Core is installed on a PC or NAS, or if you have a device that supports Roon Core.
#2. There is no separate menu related to Roon in RS130.
#3. Roon Core must be rebooted for Roon certification to apply and for normal use of RS130’s Roon Ready.

Thank you

3 Likes
#2

Finally!
I’m testing this afternoon!

#3

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: Fully Fonctionnal! :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

#4

This is my first time using a Roon Ready device. Is there a way to upsample the PCM data over to DSD512 (Native in Roon) to the RS130?

#5

Tell Roon to upsample to DSD, although you would need extremely powerful computer to pull it off even with DSD256, let alone 512.

Honestly, there’s also no point to doing it whatsoever…

#6

Hello….I’m new to Roon…is ‘Roon core’ a device, or an app?

#7

Is a Operating System or a App.
2 solutions :

  • RoonCore App should be installed on a Windows PC or a NAS.
  • Roon Core OS obviously also integrating the Core (named R.O.C.K) should be instaled only on a PC exlusively dedicated at is usage, idealy on NUC PC. This solution is the most efficient, especially in terms of speed of database processing, responsiveness and for users who use the DSP, part correction files, etc.
#8

“Roon Core” (or server) is the server part of the Roon system. It is an application you install on a PC (Windows, Mac or Linux) or a sufficiently powerful NAS that manages your local and streaming music and sends audio to audio devices (over a network for Roon Ready devices or through a direct connection from either the Roon Core or a computer or phone running Roon remote.

ROCK – Roon Optimized Core Kit – is a stripped down distribution of Linux that can run on certain Intel NUC mini-PCs (you could hack things to run it on something else, but why bother…) that is, well, optimized for running Roon and Roon only.

Alternatively you can buy a Nucleus server from Roon, but unless you just want a completely hands-free approach it is not a very good value.

#9

I’m going to install and use Roon this afternoon.
Just received my Roon certified NUC with i5 and 16gb ram
Should do fine
One question since I have not any experience with Roon
I have 2 Roon ready devices, Rose RS130 and in my home office an Elac Z3 mobile speaker.
How do I select the device in Roon to play to?
And can I play different music in my living room and in my office?
And when I just want to listen to Rose radio, I have to use the Rose app or can I also listen to radiostations using Roon?

#10

In the Roon app at the bottom of the screen, you’ll see a blue box asking you to select an audio zone to play to. But first, you’ll have to assign your devices under Settings - Audio.

For Roon radio, you’ll have to select stations under Live Radio, or My Life Radio. Then you can play them from Roon from then on.

BTW, Roon had a similar forum to this one. You may find lots of interesting posts on queries by other members.

#11

I am resuming this rather dated post because it seems to me the most suitable for my question:
“What is the minimum Roon setting to use it as a simple library and streaming service management ?”

I have in fact noticed that listening directly to the RS130 + RD160 pair via the Rose Connect sounds better than if it were not managed by the Roon Server.

Maybe mine is just a “psycho-acoustic” belief, but I have listened to many reference songs from my playlists and the feeling of a better sound with the Rose Connect without Roon has been a constant.

I would therefore like to set the Roon Server in a minimal way, without streaming processing and delegate the entire streaming decoding process to the RS130.

At the moment I use a powerful mini-computer as a Roon Server, but some time ago I had done some tests with a Roon Nucleus and the result did not change. Rose Connect without Roon sounds better.

However, the library management and the Roon interface are undeniably better.

#12

I agree with you, although on my system, the difference is very minimal (dedicated server with fiber network card and all fiber network), there are tutorials to optimize Roon and which improve Roon a little (you can find one on the Taiko site). For a significant change, our Rose streamers would have to be compatible with Squeezelite or HQplayer. Indeed, I had a Sotm streamer and as soon as I used these protocols the sound was much better than Roon RAAT. Obviously this is not on the program for Hifi Rose and it must be said that practically no other major brand offers these protocols…

#13

For pure testing I tried to ask DeepSeek what the minimum setting of the Roon Server is to obtain the original signal process reduced to “zero”.
The answer took 30 seconds to process and was astonishing.
Today I will apply the recommendations obtained through DeepSeek and I will report the results in this post.
AI is magic !

#14

Question: could it not be, that the LAN Implementation on the Rose device itself creates the difference between music from internal compared to streaming over LAN (with whatever protocol)?

#15

I have seen this very conversation on many diff. forums. Many compare the native app to the Roon (for whatever streamer) and say the native is better. I have only done with Eversolo. Did not notice a difference. But I did do the time and go through all the Roon best practices and set it up right. Have others? no idea. I would say I have seen a 50-50 on this on who says Roon is not as good. I have not heard it, but I have spent much time doing my digital path right. Who knows, but there is a large population that agrees so it may have merit.

I will do this comparison when my room is complete. My new RS130 is just burning in now and I have carpet coming next week for room.

My digital path is Modem → EERO Router → wired to LHY-SW6 → Fiber to Melco S100 → fiber to RS-130

System is
RS130
PS Audio MKII DAC via usb
ARC LS28-SE pre → with external Xover JL-Audio CR-1
PS Audio BHK 300’s
Focal Sopra 2.
Rythmik G25HP Sub

1 Like
#16

keep in mind, that any room modification has an influence to sound in room as well.

I know about the sayings about Roon - but honestly, I love Roon, and its funtionality - and therefore accept that it might make a subtle difference. My music collection is very large, and will probably not fit into the Rose Streamer. Its currently only fitted with 1 TB for testing purposes. And I could also hear a difference with the same material played local. But I’ have the RS150 - and I’m not sure, if the caching is the same than in the RS130. I decided to keep my RS150 as long as it works, and keep using Roon, because with other devices, I cannot use Rose, because of different brands. Roon make me use all my devices with one library.
Wish you a lot of fun with your new stuff.

2 Likes
#17

Thanks…only room and Rose (replacing Eversolo) is new. Equipment is from my old house. Moved months ago. taking time to build room. Lots of room treatment too. Its a dual purpose room. Designed for two channel but also has a surround sound. AC Screen in front will hang in front of the diffusors. I have passthrough mode on my two channel pre and xover that lets my 2.1 be shared with two systems.

basement pic 1
basement pic 15712×4284 3.66 MB
basement pic 1a
basement pic 2
basement pic 25712×4284 2.23 MB

2 Likes
#18

Wow - I’d like to have such a large, dedicated room.
Mine is small, compared to yours.

You can find Pics of my Room on my private website: https://www.a-swiss.ch/
German + English

#19

That turntable looks killer. Is that a Nacamichi Dragon Tape deck? Old school audiophile.

Room is 16’x25’ but in basement. So height is limited to 7.5’. Rock wool all 5 sides covered by Sonopan and then sheet rock. Should insulate the rest of the house from the sound…I hope.

#20

Thanks, I’m very happy with all my stuff.
Its a Nakamichi RX-505E - a smaller model than the Dragon. The turntable is an Acoustic Solid Edition and very close to the digital streaming soundwise.

It’s for me the max I could realise in an apartment building with 7 other families without disturbing them. At least none complained so far :sweat_smile:

IMG_20240308_161518
IMG_20240308_1615183648×2736 1.3 MB

2 Likes