RS151 vs RS130 as a pure transport

Hello, I already have a great DAC, with that in mind, which is better as a transport, the 151 or the 130. (or is there really any difference now that the 151 has been improved in the latest verson). Thanks.

Lots of people will pipe up explaining how some unknown magic makes the 130 a better transport, somehow, but in the real world bound by laws of physics there can not and is not any difference. Nor, for that matter, would it be any better than a $400 laptop with a touchscreen.

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And Boris will pop up saying that all of these products are snake oil and there are no differences between these or other products.

Does Boris even own any Rose products?
That’s the real question you should first ask when reading his posts.

If you already have a great DAC and want just a transport then you’re looking at the RS130.
However if you already have a great DAC… not sure that the RS130 would be the best option for you.

One of the issues is older BT and wi-fi via dongle. Limits to BT4.2.

I’d say you’d get better options elsewhere.
If you were looking at the 160/130 combo… maybe.

Thanks. I have an anthem avm90 with a great dac that i will continue to use. I was interested in purely the opinion on which unit has a better transport, the 151 or the 130.

I think the transports will be the same or very similar. If you look at the specs… they are all very similar and there’s a lot of cross use of tech. Its when you look at the reference that you get some differences.

The Rose stuff is good, but when you look at mix/matching w other components from other brands… you get into some issues of synergy. While Boris will claim that its not real… it actually is.

The thing about transports… what features do you want and what do you think you’ll use. I mean having storage? Maybe, but if you mostly stream… not a lot of value, or if you have a ton of music on a NAS that’s also a roon enpoint and one hop away… local storage is really not going to be used. Or the external clock.

And then the fiber USB that works w the 160 but has compatibility issues elsewhere.

Yes, we know that you are stupid. Did yourt momma wipe your bum today yet?

If onme has a DAC they believe, for some reason, to be different enough from an accurate one, an RS250 (or RS150 if you want a larger screen) will make for an identical transport for less money. And bnoth comes with perfectly fine DACs built in just in case.

Which is completely irrelevant. One does not use BT, whether 4.2 or 5.4 or any other, if they are looking for quality lossless transmission.

What exactly do you want to listen to? AVM90 is a perfectly fine device (well, apart from Anthem still advertising as “Roon Ready coming soon” for years now, and no, it’s not coming, and no USB Audio support either) and what you want to use for it, to use all of its capabilities, is a PC with HDMI output to Anthem. Will stream anything and should support multichannel, Atmos if you are using Tidal or something that does it, and you won’t have for anyone to start supporting new streaming platforms…

Boris.
Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit and you clearly don’t know anything about BT 5.4.
Assuming you have a source that’s BT 5.3 or 5.4 you will have lossless.

And if you were paying attention… the question of features between the two and what makes sense. So you talk about all of the features and their warts.

But then again… which Rose Products do you own?
You never did say.

Blah, blah, blah. Stop spouting drivel about things well beyond your ken.

That you can’t read, and don’t know how to look at the forum is your problem. Although you do seem to enjoy being an ignorant moron, so it may not be a problem for you, just for everyone else here having to read through your verbal excrement.

I listen to the widest range of music from classical to heavy metal. My current setup is AVM90 (ES9038PRO DAC), HIFI Rose rs150b ( I only use the transport), Persona 5Fs, Persona Subs/Center, Mcintosh 611s, and run through SAVANT home integration network. I am going to sell my 150b, and either buy the newer 151 or the 130. Again, I am only interested in whether the 151 or 130 would be best as a transport only. (I thought that maybe because the 151 was newer that the transport components in the 151 might make it also better as a transport).

Yes, but what is your ssource? Streaming? Local library? Roon?

You certainly can… but it’d be a waste of money. You are using it as a digital source, and AVM90 will buffer and reclock digital data anyway. 150, 151, 130, or anything else will work exactly the same in this case. With AVM90 lacking USB Audio input you can either feed it with S/PDIF from a streamer (again, it won’t make an iota of difference which one unless it is atrociously bad, and Rose’s aren’t that bad) or use a PC (well, there might be one EverSolo model that could do it, too) with HDMI output that passes audio) connected with HDMI that gives you high res (at least up to 192/24) and multichannel and stuff like Atmos. And of course you can run anything on a PC. You want Spotify Lossless? No problem. Tidal’s Atmos tracks? Sure. Amazon HD or Apple Music? There you go. Want to use Roon? Of course. Prefer Audirvana or HQPlayer? No issue.

Some kind of a touch screen laptop or 2-in-1 would give you everything Rose does, but with even bigger screen and better software. And it all would cost 1/10th of what a dedicated streamer would.

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Buy new instead of old, it is recommended to use RS151 directly!

Isn’t it a waste to use the RS151 as a pure transport as it comes with a DAC as well ?
Could consider the new transport from HiFi Rose.