RS151 - where is the parametric EQ?

The horror! So sorry!

Does every thread on this site have to devolve into this?

@ROSEHAN

Even on reference level equipment, you will still want to have EQ as an option.

While all components in the signal path are important… the speakers and their interaction with the room will have the most impact on the sound. In many situations, you can not always correct the room w acoustic treatment and this is where EQ comes into play.

Not everyone has purposely built listening rooms.

At the same time… you can also look at the speakers. EQ allows one to correct or change aspects about certain speakers.

If you look at your competitors… (outside of Eversolo) Some are doing this on comparable hardware.

There are different companies offering room correction and the results vary.

Right now Lyngdorf seems to have the best room correction on the market. Others tend to use Dirac and of course YMMV on its effectiveness.

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To do a proper room correction you need a good preamp/prepro that controls the sound of every speaker including subwoofers. Plus you need a great microphone & and a Laptop. You also need a lot of knowledge to run these Room Correction tools.

If Room Correction is your goal consider buying an Anthem AVM90 or a Trrinov.

If you’re going to go with a built in room correction, that would be Lyngdorf.
If you want to buy a good mic and use a PC running REW, you could get better results but its a lot of manual work.

Sub calibration would be interesting. Not difficult if you have dedicated sub output channel(s).

But getting back to the RS520 or RS151. You have EQ settings so you could do a parametric eq and also room correction w a USB mic… since you don’t have a mic input jack.

In terms of results. I used to have an AV receiver w room correction many moons ago. It worked… meaning that there was some improvement… but not really. YMMV.

For the correction I have an Accuphase Dg68. It’s expensive but fantastic

I’m in and I’m ā€œposingā€ too.

And I have a Lyngdorf TDAI 3400 for it.

But Trinnov Audio isn’t bad either.

I don’t know how to operate it, though.

When someone shows off, psychologically it’s often an attempt to boost their self-esteem or seek recognition. It’s a form of self-presentation that often aims to impress the audience.

Cheers :wink:

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Basically, you need something that isn’t Rose and includes extra $10 in parts for sub output.

A calibrated microphone can be had for $40-80, depending on how fancy one wants to go. Better equipment will come with a microphone anyway. Laptop is not strictly necessary, higher end gear can generate corrections internally. Even a modern phone can do it quickly enough.

When one wants to play music, a surround system is not necessary. Any system supporting Dirac, or a Lyngdorf etc. will do a good job.

Surprisingly :rofl: you are absolutely correct here, although with a PC and something like Acourate or Focus Fidelity you can get very good result wwith almost no manual effort.

Old AVR correction systems (YPAO and stuff) from years ago can’t be compared with modern DRC systems like RoomPerfect, Dirac, or Trinnov’s (or Anthem’s ARC, but Anthem are a less than honest company). Even Wiim’s DRC does better correction for stereo these days.

Of course the level of improvement depends on how much there is to improve, but in general it will be orders of magnitude greater than anything to be gained from replacing streamers themselves or fiddling with cables, SFPs, or DACs.

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Boris,
REW is free. Just time and the cost of the mic and stand.

There’s been some pushback on Dirac. I used it many years ago w my surround system …
It was ok. Good for some improvements for home theater but that was it.

Room correction is also a must, although when you have to deal w wife approval… not always.

It is. Housecurve is free, if you have an iDevice. Focus Fidelity is the price of a single Dirac Live license and you can use it to correct any number of systems.

Sure, from audiophiles that, given possibility of manual configuration, turn it into a ā€œsmiley faceā€ EQ and then are surprised to get digital clipping.

Is Dirac the best DRC system? No, there are arguably better ones. If done properly though it is beneficial. Heck, on the same room hooked to the same speakers, Wiim with RoomFit will sound better than a Rose without doing some external DRC.

Room treatment you mean, I presume? It is, some things can’t be fixed even with DRC.

Yes, that’s right!

Even RoomPerfect is not a god.

RP takes its measurements at a minimum of -40dB. That means if I assume the device is at full volume (0dB), it will take the measurement at a volume of 60%. Yes, and I know I can’t really compare it like that!

I listen to music at room volume, around -70/-60 dB (that is, 30-40% of full volume). But when I go into another room, I can already hear a slight bass rumble. Everything is fine right in the music room.

Of course, all inanimate objects, or even we ourselves, are excited by sound (acoustics). A perfect room (let’s say) doesn’t exist. Perhaps the former Wolf’s Lair would be a near-perfect room, but even there, the acoustics would interact with the speakers themselves, which would then produce the sound.