Simply Infuriating

I’m severely close to taking a sledgehammer to this overpriced waste of money. In the music app, when I attempt to play an album, nothing happens. I press the circle button with the play symbol. Nothing happens. I will give up and play the first track and it NEVER continues the rest of the album. Instead, it plays a completely unrelated song by a different artist. Also, I STILL have the issue of not being able to add a song to a playlist in Apple Music. Yes, I watched your videos. Yes, I’m doing it correctly. No, your product is not working. This machine is beyond infuriating.

Unfortunatly, I can confirm same issue, since last big firmware/app update within my RS130: Selecting a song from my recent list or other favourites, a complety other song start playing. After selecting the wanted titel a 2nd or 3d time, it plays the correct song. What might be the reason here? Who can confirm this issue, as well?

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@DeepSouthDisco

Please answer a few questions.

  1. You said that when you press the circle button in the music app to play the sound, it does not play.
    Are you unable to play sound when you press the circle button on both RS130 and the RoseConnect app?

  2. When playing music in the Apple Music app, is a certain sound source not playing?
    Is the music that is not playing lossless?
    We do not support lossless music on Apple Music.

I was at the same point of wanting to take a sledgehammer to it I turned to Roon since the app was so infuriating. When I added a CD to the queue to play, it added them in the wrong order instead of track number order. I have my music library properly tagged using a file tag editor. Every other app I’ve used can read them in the correct order.

The Apple Music implementation is very disappointing. I dumped my iPod years ago since AAC/256 kbps sounds awful to me. I was looking forward to the RS130. Between Apple Music and the awful software I’m angry at the dealer that sold it to me. I’d never but another product from him again.

I’m looking at a different mid brand streamer after my experience with this product. I’d like to sell it but doubt I could get much for it. I’ve not had any technical malfunctions only the buggy software and Apple Music implementation.

Roon has made it a little easier to deal with but I’m looking at purchasing a new streamer.

Consider a FIIO S 15 streamer.

https://www.fiio.com/s15

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Thanks for sharing this. Ordered an Eversolo DMP-A8 that arrives tomorrow. It supports Apple Music hires if you sideload the app from the apk file. I’ll continue to use my RS130 and maybe try to sell it at some point.

Let me know your thoughts.

I’ve spoken to two sellers of HIFI Rose products about the RS 151. They praise it. But, when I bring up the operating system(Amended Android) they then step back and agree there is a large weakness with the HIFI software.

I would have done the same with mine if not for roon and my Living Room KEF System. I moved the RS130 OUT of my critical listening space and I’m now using it to connect to the COAX on my KEF Wireless II system. It works great now, it looks pretty in the living room, my wife likes to use it.

In my critical listening room, I’ve upgraded to a much less expensive Holo Red streamer. Not only does it sound better but I am able to run any flavor or player including Gentoo, AudioLinux, roonBridge, etc.

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Yes, one has to use Roon with it or they risk losing their sanity. The RS130’s only weakness is the app and Apple Music. I got my new streamer yesterday and am able to listen to Apple Music in hi res. The app seems to work without issues. It has Tidal connect but I don’t know how to even use it. I’m debating whether I want to keep the Rose or sell it. As for SQ, Rose is only slightly better. Not sure it’s enough for me to keep it.

Really? I had the Red just before I got the RS130. Compared the Red to it and felt the 130 was for me audibly superior. I agree about the interface, however.

What’s your take on the Eversolo smaller screen size compared to the RS 130?

@reed1003 I’m fine with the smaller screen on the eversolo device. Most of the time I don’t use the screen on the unit itself since I use my iPad for selecting music. The casting function for getting AM is fine on my 10th generation iPad. I’m still contemplating keeping the Rose since the sound is slightly more robust than the eversolo. If I had never heard the Rose, I wouldn’t have known the difference. For listing to Apple Music, I will use only the eversolo since the SQ of native AM is better as well as having gapless playback. If it hadn’t been for Roon, I would have gotten rid of the Rose months ago. Roon is reading all my file tags correctly where Rose is splitting one of my Expose albums incorrectly and 1 song shows as an album by itself and the text is in Korean. All other apps of other devices read my file tags correctly. I’ve tagged them with software made for editting file tags since Windows media player does’t always tag them correctly when ripping CDs.

You could try connecting your Roon Core to your DAC via a USB cable directly. You may be amazed by the result. Then you can further consider to keep the rose or not.

One of the disadvantages of having the Roon core on my PC is that it’s in a different part of the house. As HiFi Huff put it, the Rose is like analog on steroids. It does have something extra that isn’t present with the eversolo. Most likely, I will end up keeping Rose as it’s paid for already and does sound awesome. As a present to myself, I bought the Roon lifetime subscription with my bonus so no annual fee for it.

The Apple Music situation is solely on Apple! If I didn’t like their algorithm for finding music so much, I’d dump them as Tidal has a huge selection too.

If Rose were to incorporate the sideloading of Android apps as eversolo does, I’d sell my eversolo unit.

The software in the RS130 is not perfect, neither is eversolo for that matter. If apple music is important to you, then go with a device that works well with apple music. For many audiophiles apple music is not their primary sources, rightfully so. I have all major streaming services, including apple music, together with Spotify its the one i never use. I use roon pretty much exclusively, only reason to keep service like Apple music and Spotify is for the kids. RS130 with roon is one of the best solutions imho, It also work very well with qobuz, which is the best streaming services for hi-res content imho.

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Marc. Thanks for all the input.
I’m still exploring to see if the RS 151 is the one for me.

I’ve now demo’d the FIIO S15, an Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition Gen 2 and the HIFI Rose 151.
For the money the screen on the 151 can’t be beat but for loading outside apps the Eversolo and FIIO streamers are the winners.

Looks like I’m going to lean with the Eversolo model over the other two. I do agree with you if HIFI Rose offered sideloading as Eversolo and FIIO I’d be purchasing a HIFI Rose 151.

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@reed1003 I sold my RS130 and shipped it to the buyer yesterday. It’s out of my life. I would have kept the RS130 but too many issues with the app. Rose hardware is excellent and sounds great, but their app really needs a lot of refinement. I bought the RS130 since it had AM as an app. I was very disappointed when I found out it was an API using AAC. I’m enjoying my new Eversolo DMP-A8 and can listen to AM at CD and higher quality. I bought the lifetime Roon subscription while I owned the Rose so I’m using it with the Eversolo. Roon really makes life simple.

For a minute I thought you were saying that you wanted to listen to AM radio on it. :laughing:

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Having sold my Rs150b and Rs160, I bought an Rs130 with Dac Accuphase (Dg68)

I use Roon, the Rose app still having shortcomings that I had with the Rs150b

Gil