SMB share, generally disappointed

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#1

I am a ROSE user (obviously), I bought the RS201e earlier after seeing reviews on the internet. I was generally surprised by the features and capabilities it has as other similar network streamers do not have such an open ecosystem.

Though, until when I try to connect RS201e to my music server with the SMB protocol, a lot of problems occur.

At first, it was unable to connect to my music server with the ID and password I typed. Then I forced SMB 1.0 in my server, it worked. I played a piece of audio and it was working fine, but not for the next one.

After that, ROSE kept erroring, saying that the music was unplayable and unable to do music transport (smth like that).

I thought it is a problem with my own internet infrastructure, but the fact that other network streamers/devices were able to connect to it, makes me think that it isn’t really.

I still like the RS201e, but the SMB share problem is really disappointing and kept me away from using it as a daily driver.

Hopefully, this can be looked into.

#2

Hi kawao,

RS201E uses SMBv1 for network sharing. Are you having problems browsing files or playing music even though you have SMBv1 enabled?
With your help, we will find the cause and improve it.

  1. What Music Server are you using?

  2. Are you using a static IP for the Music Server’s network settings? If it is DHCP, can I use it after setting it as a static IP?

  3. Which iPhone, iPad, Android Phone, or Android Tablet are you using for RoseConnect?

Best regards,
Kevin

#3

I have the same problem, running a QNAP TS471 with Asset UPNP, MiniMServer, and Plex enabled. All my 19,000 tracks show up, but one day music plays, the next I get error messages. Exact symptoms as above. I wished I could just connect to my Asset UPNP server as I was able to with my previous music servers.

#4

I’m having problems too using a Qnap TVS-882.
Regards Matt.

#5

Forgot to mention I have a RS150B and SMB1 enabled on the QNAP. After the FW update to 4.0.0.8 I am dead in the water playing my ‘own’ music.

#6

Hi Kawao and hififan,
Maybe a option here guys we need Plex on the Rose streamers that way it would work.
Regards Matt.

#7

For the music server, I am using my own Mac Pro for it considering I have one for works. Though, I am using DHCP for the internet, will try using static IP later.

I am currently using my iPhone 12 Pro for RoseConnect.

The Mac Pro has been configured to force using SMBv1 for network share.

#8

Plex would be fine, but I have realized that Asset UPNP is much better. It is really the only server that can fix the tagging issues for WAV files.

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#9

Can we at least have Plex support, though?

There’s no way I would pay for a Roon Nucleus just because of Rose.

#10

I have a RS150B, Synology NAS and for the Cambridge audio streamer I use Minim Server. What are the best setting for my RS150. A tutorial would be welcome. Including settings on the NAS and on the Rose.
Thanks in advance.

#11

My question is from dec 2021 and still no reaction on it :frowning:

#12

Hello,

Features related to DLNA/UPnP media discovery and addition are not yet under consideration.

  1. Enable SMBv1 in Synology NAS settings.
  2. RS150B > Settings > Storage Settings > SMB Settings > Set ID and PW for SMB and enable SMB
  3. RS150B > Music > Folder > Network > Select Synology NAS > enter your NAS’s account
  4. Select your music file
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#13

@ROSELOA Hello,

I’ve had a similar problem for a long time.
The connection to the Synology is established and I can browse through the albums.

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But when I select a song to play, nothing happens or it just skips and goes to the next playable song.
However, no library is created.
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#14

Hello,

  1. Seems like your screenshot is about RoseConnect for PC. Is it Windows or Mac?
  2. Does the issue you mentioned happens in RoseConnectPremium APP, for iphone or Android phone?
  3. RoseConnect for PC > Setting > Media Playback Option > Music Play Option > What’s your setting?
  4. We have new version for PC. Notice will be updated soon, but you still can download the update file.
    Would you check if it still happens in new version?

For Windows 4.1.6

​For Mac 4.1.6

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#15

@ROSELOA
Hi,

  1. Windows 10 latest Version
  2. It happens on Android an Rose too.
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  4. New version is installed and shows the same behavior
#16

Hello,

Would you check this?

  1. RS250 > Music > Folder > Network > Next to the name of your NAS, you will see an orange colored clip button.
  2. If you touch this clip, you can edit or delete login information. Please delete.
  3. Reboot your ROSE device.
  4. Enter your NAS again.

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#17

NOT as simple as you said, we all try many times, all attempts is network error or login error.

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#18

This whole SMB thing is just extra burden. For me, I have moved on with my new stack in which my Rose amplifier connects to my server via WebDAV. This loses the ability to view album art and browse music files via the mobile/desktop application but I am generally fine with it. At least better than using Airplay and suffer from the quality limitations it brings. Yuck.

Not sure are you interested into using WebDAV for your Rose, but here’s a simple guide on how to setup one:

  1. Head to the Music app (not to be confused with Apple Music app) (or Videos, depends on what you are playing)
  2. Head to the folder icon, the one just above the gears icon.
  3. Click Cloud and click the add button
  4. Enter the information required (fyi HTTPS is supported)
  5. You should be displayed with a list of folders which should be equivalent to what you store in the corresponding server (may vary depending on how you setup user accounts)

If you are wondering how to setup WebDAV for your server… take a Google search and you will find plenty of tutorials about it.

In fact, I’d probably recommend this method more since WebDAV is way faster than SMBv1 (of course, depends on your intranet/internet but in most case it is indeed noticeably faster). And the fact that you could have your server hosted remotely which is literally my current situation.

The another way around is probably plug your TV audio output to your Rose amplifier via something like Coaxial, then install the corresponding player client for your music server (if your TV is a smart TV).

If your TV isn’t a smart TV, TV hubs like Apple TV are always an option, though ATV doesn’t support 24bit/96khz audio output so I would probably avoid it if those values are important to you. :man_shrugging:

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#19

Why we have to using products with struggle way?

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#20

Chill, nothing is perfect at the beginning. Things take time to polish to be best. We as early adopters should be aware of the risks products like this give.

At least they gave us the option to use WebDAV which is already generous enough. The shortcomings of SMB support in Rose devices are just temporary and will probably be resolved soon with the feedback users (we) provide

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