Hello,
This is the kind of informations I wanted when writing the post.
thanks,
Fred
Yah, too much noise (lol) in a lot of these replies. Seems no one can just answer the gd question.
Nie zgadzam się z Twoim zdaniem. Używam Rose RS150B od 3 lat i marnie im idzie w zakresie aplikacji sterujące. A pilot na bluetooth to porażka, kompletnie nie działa. Co do jakości streamingu z Tidal, świetna jakość. Ale trzeba szukać lepszych urządzeń i dzisiaj uruchomiłem EverSolo DMP-A10. I mi,szczęka opadła". Jakość dźwięku wybitna z Tidal. A aplikacja 10 razy lepsza od Rose.
Naprawdę bezbłędnie działa Tidal connect.
Możliwości konfiguracji większa niż u Rose i lepiej grającego niż ich nowośc RS130 z RD160 - słuchałem porównanawczo . A cena 60% ceny Rose . Chińczycy na ten moment pokonali większość konkurencji . TO JEST Hi END.
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Rose 150B teraz sprzedaję.
You’re entitled to your own opinion on devices. For me personally and for a few of my friends who were interested in new streaming players, none of us bought the Ever Solo, their top-of-the-line streamer. It sounds too detailed, almost stage-like, to me. The highs are definitely higher than those of the RS 151. In this respect, these devices are incomparable. Plus, the RS 151 has a much better display. Finally, you’ll get a better resale value if you buy the ES than the Rose, but everyone has their own choice. I wouldn’t buy the Ever Solo and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
Cougar 2025,
That’s interesting. With the same number and type of AKM Dac chips one would think the sound would be similar. Maybe it’s the Op Amps that make the difference.
StandardModel
Amplifiers don’t have that much of an impact in this case. In fact, mine was better anyway. I have a Class A Accupahase E 800, and friends have amplifiers like Macs, a Gryphon Diablo 300. The sound was even worse, even more detailed, and the high-pitched treble of vocalists was unacceptable to me. The Ever Solo is designed for very dark speakers, and it might work well there, but resale would involve a significant loss. Lower-end Ever Solo models are very similar, but their price is very competitive. However, the top-of-the-line ES streamer is too expensive compared to, say, the Rose RS 151.
kevin90210
Quote from a user from another thread
“That’s too funny, I just purchased another HiFi Rose device from Audi Advice. I got the RS520. I returned the Eversolo DMP-A6 and got a DMP-A6 master edition only to have this one fail to output sound again for same issues. They took it back and gave me full credit toward the upgraded RS520. The 520 is rocking right now. I love the full screen and it has lots of power to drive the KEF r11 Metas .”
rayray47,
I think I may have been misunderstood. I was speaking of the internal operational amplifiers after the AKM DAC chips and before the DAC output. They can vary a great deal to color the sound of a DAC. I wasn’t speaking of the power amplifiers after a preamplifier and before the speakers.
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Ekran ,nie odtwarza muzyki !!!. Istota jakości tkwi w tym ,że DMP-A10 przy odtwarzaniu pomija aplikację Google i w ich własnym silniku CPU oraz w aplikacji ES9039PRO. Ich wyświetlacz jest specjalne ekranowany aby ograniczyć wpływ na układ elektroniczny. A aplikacja connect Tidal, Roon jest świetna i bardzo funkcjonalna i nie zacina się jak u Rose. Wypróbuj, a potem opowiadaj !!!
I wrote that I listened to the top-tier streamer Ever Solo both on my own and on two different systems at friends’ houses, and in each case, it sounded so bad that no one liked it, and none of us bought the Ever Solo.
Everyone knows that a screen doesn’t affect the quality of the music, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s much better on the Rose.
I don’t use Tidal Connect, so I don’t need it. I use Tidal and Qoubuza through the Rose app, and I’ve been very happy with it for over four years. I previously used a Rose RS 250, which I sold and bought the RS 151. I experience no interruptions, etc., while playing music. Again, I wouldn’t buy the Ever Solo again, even if it were cheaper than it is now.
HiFi devices from Rose, FiiO, and others, and Eversolo’s DMP models, all use a simplified version of Android (without the top-tier GMS layer that provides Google functionality like the Play Store). However, its Android roots are well hidden, as the EverSolo DMP-A10 offers a unique interface enhanced with Eversolo’s EOS audio engine, which bypasses Android’s limitations in high-resolution file playback. The only element suggesting the presence of Google software is the ability to install third-party apps. Sure, Rose has the largest displays on the market, but those displays don’t play music. The key lies in the ES9039SPRO chip and super-accurate clocks, plus R-2R equalization. And at this point, Rose is defeated. And you can hear it. Add to that the superb equalization capabilities and the truly best Eversolo app on the market. So, after 45 years of audiophile experience, the DMP-A10 streamer is currently number one in the world. Greetings from Krakow.
All I can say is the Rose 151 has made my music sound like it never has before. So beautiful, rich bass, air around the instruments, vocals outstanding. My years and years of upgrading are done!
(HIFI Rose 151 & 280, Roon Nucleus, Acoustic Energy Corinium’s)
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I can also say that after 45 years of refinement, I’ve achieved the perfect system. Absolutely top-notch quality. EverSolo DMP-A10, Luxman L-550AXII, Chario Aviator Cielo, and Cambridge Audio Azur 851C, all powered by a DirectStream Power Plant 12 regenerator. This system guarantees me absolute heaven on earth in terms of sound. And importantly, I didn’t have to sell my Lamborghini to buy this set. 
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The final step was to swap the Rose RS150B for the EverSolo DMP-A10. A very good final step.
Additional information: with the DMP-A10, you’ll need several hours of “tough time” to set the optimal parameters for yourself. There are many additional options to choose from. But it’s really worth it, because the effect is extraordinary.
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there is a significant difference in sound, depends what you look after (more precisions and details or better timing and emotion). I recommend you to go with your unit to a Rose dealer and compare directly.
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Hello, I don’t have to go to a Rose dealer. I have and have been using a Rose RS 150B, the Rose reference streamer, at home for three years. And for the past few days, I’ve been thinking that the EverSolo DMP-A10 streamer is a class above the rest, having bought it for my system. You just need to set the DMP-A10 to the optimal hardware settings, and the sound is superb. The way EverSolo managed to implement the ES9039SPRO with its super-precise clocks and the quality of the electronics used puts it in first place among complete streamers. Unfortunately, Rose has now lost. And the Eversolo app is several times better than Rose Contact. That’s the objective truth.
Wilk
This isn’t objective truth, only your truth, and these are two different things. Of course, everyone has the right to write what they like, but I’m not arguing that the ES is a class-leading device; that’s a rather frivolous statement. A class-leading device would be, for example, the Lumin X1 or the Aurender A20, which will eat the Rose Gold and Ever Solo for breakfast, but they’re expensive. I don’t know anyone, and I’m on several audio forums, and no one raves about the Ever Solo. You might like it, like any other device, but it’s nothing special. Moreover, the depreciation will be significant after a few years if you decide to sell it. After selling my RS 250 after four years, I lost around 26-28%.
The objective truth about the EverSolo app is confirmed by many users. I use it myself now and rate RoseHiFi as weaker and unstable. As for comparing the Lumin X1 or Aurender A20, the Aurender A20 isn’t a streamer, it’s a music server. The Lumin is in a different price range; it’s more than twice the price of the RS150B, and I’m not convinced it’s that great. As for investment, streamers are a very poor investment (they last 3 to 5 years and need to be replaced due to changes in streaming platforms). And the DMP-A10 is very affordable at €3,800.
The objective truth is that most of these, whether priced as EverSolo, or as Lumin (which is another company selling to clowns who believe in fuses and power cords, although with better build and support) generally have identical performance. With some exceptions, like the RD160 where Rose decided to deviate from a reference design and came up with something quite mediocre, they all perform exactly the same.
Subjective impressions are great for making you happy ebout spending more (or less) on your gear, but aren’t worth jack for anyone else. And not one of you will tell Rose from EverSolo from Aurender (or from anything actually expensive) if you won’t see the price tag.
Hi, you’re absolutely right. I also believe that a price exceeding 10,000 Euro for a device is only acceptable to crazy believers in the “diamond cable” theory. To achieve minimal interference and distortion during streaming, all digital processing and conversion to analog signal must be contained in a single device. Whoever does this better and at the same time cheaper will win the consumer market. I spoke with a large audio retailer in Katowice (an area with a population of about 5 million) and he informed me that as of January 2025, they now have the same sales volume of Eversolo as McIntosh. Price-wise, McIntosh is 2.5 times more expensive than EverSolo. And it will always be this way, that for some audiophiles, passion turns into an addiction of financial self-destruction, ending with the purchase of “diamond cables.”
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In all this discussion about the nuances of hardware and software, we’re missing the point: streaming has given us absolute freedom in choosing music. If it weren’t for this, we’d still be listening to vinyl records or CDs. But in reality, digital is in conflict with analog transmission. Digital will always be just an approximation of analog. The world is entirely analog. Greetings from the royal city of Krakow.
Depending on a specific product type, the price limit might be closer to 500 dollars/euro or something, but yes, those are purely Veblen goods and are bought because they are expensive, not because they are good.
And there you have Wiim and the likes which are doing just fine in consumer space. Audiophiles are a different story and will pay significantly more for a worse system because it gives them a warm and fuzzy feeling. There certainly is some premium worth paying for a better looking, more featured device, and the big screen on the Rose might count. Has nothing to do with sound quality though…
EverSolo really seems to be following in Rose’s footsteps in this regard and now makes rather overpriced products with tons of useless (clock inputs, I2S, etc.) features that appeal to people who don’t know better, rather than straightforward well-performing gear at a reasonable price that they started with.
Not sure how it will play out not that Mac is owned by Bose, but at least they are known for build quality and good support. And they have the consistent iconic look many people like. That might be worth something.
While technically true (unless you want to go to a level of electric charge of a single quark or something), within some orders of magnitude better than the limits of human hearing, readily available digital transmission is for all practical purposes indistinguishable from the original.
Analog components (that is, speakers and the room they are in) are far more important than anything one would do on the digital side.
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