Using internal HD lowers sound quality

Amazing, the lengths people with no clue whatsoever will go through to convince themselves that pixie dust and unicorn piss makes audible difference…

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Have you at least tried? Obviously Not!!

Rubbish! Dear sir. I opened this theme. You followed.

We did the test With 2 people

Listen to songs on Qobuz and Ssd (buired on Qobuz in the same format)

Listening with another streamer with aligned levels: no differences in streaming and perceived differences on songs with the respective SSDs

Listen with the same songs on an external Ssd: no difference with streaming or with the Ssd of the other device

The devices were connected in Xlr on the amp, the songs launched at the same time (I specify again: level aligned) and we could go from one to the other on the fly

Everyone, stay peaceful…some people hear it this way and others hear no difference.

But @Boris’ comparisons were still awesome. :rofl: :joy: :sweat_smile:

Boris is just trying to bring you back down to earth.

Typical audio pissing contest… Im out, continue how long you like. The internal HD in Rose sucks.

Also great, the absolute burner… :joy: :rofl: :clap:t2: :+1:t2:

Exactly !!! Unfortunately, it’s the truth

And you would know that how? Oh, right, you don’t have any clue either.

And the original message is a clueless BS, because the hard drive you can plug in there, whether it is SSD or not, uses the same processort power and “computing” (whatever that is) regardless of the storage technology.

Rubbish, indeed. If you have no idea what a SATA drive is and how it works, maybe you should not opine on technical subjects.

So, no guarantees that you were even listening to identical masters. And not a word about the test being blind.

Now, entirely possible that in your particular Rose, your particular drive emits enough electrical noise to produce some audible difference. It doesn’t in mine, but it’s technically possible. Nevertheless, “internal Samsung HD was not trad hard drive, it is a pile of memory blocks that use the processors power and computing.” is BS. It’s a SATA drive. Could have been a traditional spinning drive, if anyone still makes them in that form factor. That would use exactly as much CPU resources, but produce more electrical (and acoustical) noise due to having motors and spinning parts.

Recently I’ve done a blind test with 3 different streamers and CD rip played on the same DAC. Nobody could find the difference unless different masters were used (I tested with 4 songs, on 2 songs I deliberately choose different masters so people can not say that system cannot reveal differences). So, it is very interesting that people can find the difference between playing internal and external HDD, but cannot find difference between Wiim Pro and Rose 250A hooked to the same DAC.

We all make experience in our own environment. They cannot be parallell… how could they? Tellling me that digital is always digital and laughing at this is … you decide.
My claim is that the internal HD does use the power and computing capacity of Rose so that it lowers the general SQ. Play 5-10 of your test tracks via Tidal/Qobuz and internal HD and you hear the difference. Yes, take the HD off when playing the streamed versions.
I have a very heavy system (YG Sonjas, Mac 275’s, Tsakiris power condition, Transparent cables etc. Just telling that with a smaller system anything sounds pretty same… no offence.

For Boris:

Reread my post;

2 players (HifiRose, Evorsolo) connected to the Accuphase amplifier in Xlr, aligned levels

No difference in streaming and difference in SSD playback with obviously the same song recorded on the SSD (same source)

For my part, the improvement is simply explained by the fact that with the RSA720, there is no more electrical activity with the external hard drive. Only a fiber optic cable connects the external hard drive (via the RSA720) to the RS130. :point_up:

People can “hear” all kinds of things when they want to believe that there is a difference. That’s why blind tests are important.

If you said that in your environment 2+2 is 5, you’d also get laughed at.

That claim is incorrect, at least in comparison with an external USB drive.

Transparent cables, LOL. You have an expensive system with lots of useless parts. There is nothing particularly “revealing” about it.

In sighted tests and with levels not equalized with a voltmeter you can hear absolutely anything you might want to hear.

Good ok. Deaf dialogue as usual

Difference with EVERSOLO and Rose with internal Ssd and no difference with the external Ssd: the levels have nothing to do since they are equalized and within the rules!!!

Funny how you carefully avoid any mention of the testing (not) being blind. Or that if the problem was due to the alleged “CPU load” you would have the same difference with USB drives as well.

But then people will believe whatever they want to believe. Nearby they are arguing soniq differences of fiber-optic cable :man_shrugging:

You’re fixating on blind listening. Believe a little what you perceive.

So you “percieve” a difference, because you want it to be there. Which is perfectly fine, if it makes you happier, you can listen to music from stone tablets inscribed by Sumerian virgins on a moonless night. Just don’t go around claiming that there is any physical difference in the air pressure waves emanating from your speakers when the only difference is in your head.

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You are right, all people are influenced and do not know how to listen, hear.