Using internal HD lowers sound quality

I am fixating on measurements. In digital domain measuring differences with interference tests are extremly precise. So, there are people who hear difference between external and internal HDD, but I can not find any difference between streamers connectet digitally, let alone HDD’s. So, if there is no difference in interference test, how could be hearing difference?

All simply because the connectivity or power supply is different, for example

How much can a power supply be audible in a digital audio path? Is that in range of -100 dBFS, or -90 dBFS?

Make your own experience: some people hear differences others don’t, that’s how it is.

I know some people hear voices in the dark too :smiley: If there is not even a theoretical possibility, then if you hear something what does not suppose to be there, you have to think about what you, exactly, hear. I am sound engineer with 30 years of expirience. It is very easy to fool even expirienced professionals that something is changed, but in reality - it did not.

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It is also easy to switch to obvious things

Exactly. If you are hearing a difference between drives, or fiber cables, or fuses, or… it is far more likely because you do not know, or do not want to do a blind test. That perceived difference is real to you in the sense that yes, you do believe that you are hearing it, but it is influenced by youor menatl state and expectations, not anything immanent to the sound waves coming from the speaker.

Expectation bias.

Or, far more likely, because you believe that there would be a difference.

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Stop inventing and making people look like fools!! No one but you talks about cable!! It’s just another subject

Subject closed as far as I’m concerned. I’m not interested in deaf dialogue.

Whereas you, of course, believe there wouldn’t be and therefore…

Exactly. And that’s why blind tests exist. They work both ways.

Of course, in this particular you can also take a 'scope and show that whatever goes out to the speakers is the same in either case.

Half the forum is full of people comparing fiber-optic cables and SFP modules.

Of course you wouldn’t. Unfortunately you aren’t very good at either physics or abstract thinking, and can’t stand it when your Dunning-Kruger effect is challenged.

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Well that is a bit different. I (or Boris, we share he same expirience) have a interference test which clearly and empirically shows that there is no difference at all. It is hard to go against math in the digital world.

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Your pseudo test has no more value than ours!!

Hello boys and girls,

Attention, attention, important insight

I had a Christmas party yesterday and was so drunk that I heard the angels singing and that without an SSD or streamer.

Try it out… a sound world of the 13th order.

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In your head, sure. In the real world, it is your subjective impressions that have no value to anyone with even a double-digit IQ. I know, hard to accept that you are not the golder-eared stanbdard by which everyone should be measured, but alas…

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Easy to make personal attacks, it’s easy hidden behind your little keyboard.

Stop here now…or do I have to get out the 10 ounce boxing gloves again and then we’ll get into the ring with you.

One thing is clear to me:

Nothing beats a blind test to avoid cheating, lying or manipulating yourself.

Imagination is a very stupid education!!!

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Do your own experience, don’t think you’re superior to insult others.

We do not criticise those who do not hear a difference, try to do the same.

A little respect if you are able to

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Using internal HD lowers sound quality - #14 by Bonte? U=bonte

If you had read this chat in its entirety, you would know that I have already tried it.

Anyone who can read has a clear advantage!!!

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To quote, “you are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.”

Nobody is disputing that you perceive whatever difference you want to perceive. Internal HDDs can do it. So can painting your unit dark purple. Magic mushrooms have an even stronger effect. You do not get to claim that your subjective impressions have any value for anyone who did not go on an acid trip with you.

We did. We also know how to run an experiment that has any validity, something that you outright refuse to do.

There is quite a bit of a difference between people who do not hear non-existent difference and people claiming that their personal misconceptions are more valuable than facts.

Oh, and by the way you and the other subjectivists keep on insulting people who do not play along with your ignorance. You can’t have it both ways.

The comparisons are absolutely amazing. I’m just celebrating here. :joy: :rofl: :sweat_smile:

The rest of the post also contains valid arguments for me.