A competitor for the RS520? What do you think?

Its not so much a room mode, but that the volume of the output of the sub is more than enough to fill the room.

Airplay lets you play the music on two devices. I can have my rose playing in my office and my other stereo in the other room and the sub’s output compliments both sets of speakers. I mean you could be listening in the other room and if I turn off the sub… you notice it.

Boris doesn’t know much about anything.
Sorry. He can regurgitate stuff he’s read online, but he’s still clueless not to mention he doesn’t appear to own any Rose gear.

All he can do is be a troll and insult people.

And you raise an important point. Most people don’t use many of the features found on some units.
This is also why you see the popularity of AIOs like the 520 because its a plug it in… add speakers… and you’re ready to go.

Okay.

Everyone has their own preferences and buys what they think is right. If we all had the same taste, we’d all love the same woman. :wink:

Bonte,

You mean we don’t all love Sydney Sweeney :heart_eyes:?

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Boris’ mom?

Explains a lot about Boris.

Well, there’s always room for argument about taste.

Or, tastes differ!

I was thinking more of Salma Hayek in From Dusk Till Dawn.

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Now there is some good software.

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Hi Bonte, I’ve been enjoying reading about your experience with the rs520 as I have one as well and dealt with some of the issues that you have mentioned.As far as the the sub issue goes, I got a MiniDSP SHD to do full frequency room correction on my already acoustically treated room (Dirac), and then used it to plug my 2 subs in instead of using the pre outs on the 520.I too prefer a 2.2 system and this has worked out well due to the different pre sets and filters on the SHD. I was previously involved in the SQ discussion between Roon,Qobuz Connect, and Rose Connect and I think that Qobuz sounds best played through Rose Home and often it’s not even close.(Psychological I’m sure​:flushed:)…shout out to Boring! I would love to know more about your new streamer/amp/? though.Would you mind sharing the name and model?Thanks and grab some popcorn :sunglasses::+1::joy:

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Yes, it’s also possible with a MiniDSP. That was my thought back then, with my 520.

But as @Smegel mentioned in a post, laziness also got the better of me. And if you’re lazy, you either need help or you have to dig deeper into your pockets and buy more expensive equipment that already has the right connections, software, and, of course, room calibration built in.

We’re on the Rose forum here, and I can’t be too verbose, otherwise people will complain!

TDAI-Lyngdorf has all that. It’s an active crossover where you can adjust everything. Everything is included: a calibrated measurement microphone, a tripod, and a 5m cable.

Of course, the home theater surround processors also have everything built in, but they are significantly more expensive.

That’s why a MiniDSP isn’t necessary here; everything is integrated.

As for Qobuz or Tidal, I can only say that I haven’t heard any difference. I use Qobuz via Roon (using the RAAT protocol/transport, of course). For a while, I also used Tidal as a second streaming provider to test everything based on my hearing.

I’ve never understood the discussions about which sounds better (the Rose app Qobuz, or now Rose Qobuz Connect, or Qobuz via the Roon protocol).

My hearing might not be the best anymore!

As I said, it will always be a topic of discussion because we all hear differently. Some people hear better than others, and age differences also play a role.

:v:t2:

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Hi Boris

I can confirm this, assuming what I’ve read and seen online is true.

It was a test of Roon to see if the RAAT protocol is bit-correct.

It would be terrible to pay $830 for lifetime access and find out it’s a fake.

:v:t2:

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:arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :rofl::laughing::joy:… absolutely top-notch.

Boris!

Sit down with @Smegel (Mike) and smoke a peace pipe with him.

At the same time, you can exchange knowledge with each other.

Maybe one or the other can even learn something new.

But I can imagine who will win this battle.

The loser has to hand over his absolutely fantastic sound system, including the HiFi Rose, to the winner.

Now the only question is…???

Would you accept Mike’s system as the winner?

…and what about Mike, would he gladly accept your sound system?

:popcorn: :sweat_smile:

:v:t2:

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Pass.

Boris doesn’t like my Mon Acoustic Minis. And outside of my use case, I’d agree. They were purchased based on their sound, size, and aesthetics. They fit my office, but wouldn’t be useful elsewhere.

He doesn’t like the Rel, even though its a fast sub (Something Boris doesn’t understand that subs can be fast or slow where slow muddies the sound)

And he doesn’t seem to like the Rose 520. So that system is out.

And then there’s my old Arcam Solo Uno which I got at a great price. (Although its now going for $200-$250 if you can find an open boxed version) Which is a steal.

Then there’s my old VA Hadyns that I bought at a closeout and had for 25yrs now… just recapped them and replaced the resistors while I had them opened up. Not giving those up. Upgrading the XO to Clarity PURs well worth it.
(If you can find the Hadyns used for $250-400 a pair… spending $200-$250 to upgrade their XO will get you a killer sound for not that much.)

But that means you need to know how to use a soldering iron.

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I don’t know if Boris will be angry with me if I tell you that he has several Rose devices, including a 520.

Mike, I must say, you’re not too sensitive!

You always reply and you’re not a pushover like some others here who immediately blocked @BorisM. You are putting yourself in “fight”!!!

Boris is very direct, and yes, I like that because these days most people are just hypocritical. Many people immediately perceive insults, perhaps because many are unable to verbally counter them. Then they stop responding, block, or refuse to submit to the Neviau.

Well, all I can say is that he has already given many valuable tips here in the forum.

Sorry, I always chuckle when Boris makes those kinds of comparisons. But you always give a good comeback, too.

You post interesting things about your audio equipment; it would be nice if you could take some pictures.

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Good Lord, no! I think I have a subwoofer roughly equivalent to his RELs sitting in storage somewhere, it’s a DCM we got 30 years ago for maybe $200. The rest of his system is abvout as good, too.

Because “fast sub” is a meaningless drivel salesmen use to unload crap no one else takes on cliueless people like you. And, alas, even a budget SVS, apart from being actually a subwoofer, something that nothing REL makes is, is better made and “muddles the sound” far less than a REL. I’ll stick to my M&K for critical listening though.

Got enough of those already. How about something new?

Nice little box, but not an improvement over anything I already got. Not as good as a new Wiim one could get for the same money either.

Those are OK, but again, what would I do with them, not an improvement over anything I have (well, probably better than little Missions I listen to news on in the bedroom, but at least those fit behind the dresser).

Nope… nothing there would be of any use.

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Boris,

The Arcam Solo Uno was discontinued because it couldn’t compete at the $750 price range.
Arcam didn’t create the OS but bought it from a German company. Its long in the tooth and required a web access and not via an app. This could be problematic if you set it up on your network and when you rebooted it the IP address would change.

In terms of sound… it blows away the wiim and the eversolo play… but for $750 I’d tell you to go w the Play.

Now for $200 as an open box, still new? Its the best deal out there if you need a small 25wpc AIO.
Very small form factor.

I picked it up a few years ago for $350 when Best Buy was ditching it. And many were selling it at their full retail price.

It can drive my VA Hadyns to decent levels and w the upgraded XO… sounds great.

And even here… if you can pick up a pair of VA Hadyns for $250-500 used… recapping them and fixing the XO… will pay dividends. Although because of the size of the board and placement… you are limited in the caps you can use. (But to you … they all sound the same, right? )

I use gear in that price range too, so I get why the Solo Uno still hits the sweet spot when you find it cheap. And honestly, at $200, I’d grab it in a heartbeat—the sound-per-dollar is tough to beat.

Actually I posted about it to a discord group and a friend who’s local to Chicago, snagged the open box. He also snagged a great set of speakers and sub so his total system was under $750 ($500 I think) and blows every thing away.

The new units are around $250.