A competitor for the RS520? What do you think?

Its not so much a room mode, but that the volume of the output of the sub is more than enough to fill the room.

Airplay lets you play the music on two devices. I can have my rose playing in my office and my other stereo in the other room and the sub’s output compliments both sets of speakers. I mean you could be listening in the other room and if I turn off the sub… you notice it.

Boris doesn’t know much about anything.
Sorry. He can regurgitate stuff he’s read online, but he’s still clueless not to mention he doesn’t appear to own any Rose gear.

All he can do is be a troll and insult people.

And you raise an important point. Most people don’t use many of the features found on some units.
This is also why you see the popularity of AIOs like the 520 because its a plug it in… add speakers… and you’re ready to go.

Okay.

Everyone has their own preferences and buys what they think is right. If we all had the same taste, we’d all love the same woman. :wink:

Bonte,

You mean we don’t all love Sydney Sweeney :heart_eyes:?

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Boris’ mom?

Explains a lot about Boris.

Well, there’s always room for argument about taste.

Or, tastes differ!

I was thinking more of Salma Hayek in From Dusk Till Dawn.

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Now there is some good software.

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Hi Bonte, I’ve been enjoying reading about your experience with the rs520 as I have one as well and dealt with some of the issues that you have mentioned.As far as the the sub issue goes, I got a MiniDSP SHD to do full frequency room correction on my already acoustically treated room (Dirac), and then used it to plug my 2 subs in instead of using the pre outs on the 520.I too prefer a 2.2 system and this has worked out well due to the different pre sets and filters on the SHD. I was previously involved in the SQ discussion between Roon,Qobuz Connect, and Rose Connect and I think that Qobuz sounds best played through Rose Home and often it’s not even close.(Psychological I’m sure​:flushed:)…shout out to Boring! I would love to know more about your new streamer/amp/? though.Would you mind sharing the name and model?Thanks and grab some popcorn :sunglasses::+1::joy:

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Yes, it’s also possible with a MiniDSP. That was my thought back then, with my 520.

But as @Smegel mentioned in a post, laziness also got the better of me. And if you’re lazy, you either need help or you have to dig deeper into your pockets and buy more expensive equipment that already has the right connections, software, and, of course, room calibration built in.

We’re on the Rose forum here, and I can’t be too verbose, otherwise people will complain!

TDAI-Lyngdorf has all that. It’s an active crossover where you can adjust everything. Everything is included: a calibrated measurement microphone, a tripod, and a 5m cable.

Of course, the home theater surround processors also have everything built in, but they are significantly more expensive.

That’s why a MiniDSP isn’t necessary here; everything is integrated.

As for Qobuz or Tidal, I can only say that I haven’t heard any difference. I use Qobuz via Roon (using the RAAT protocol/transport, of course). For a while, I also used Tidal as a second streaming provider to test everything based on my hearing.

I’ve never understood the discussions about which sounds better (the Rose app Qobuz, or now Rose Qobuz Connect, or Qobuz via the Roon protocol).

My hearing might not be the best anymore!

As I said, it will always be a topic of discussion because we all hear differently. Some people hear better than others, and age differences also play a role.

:v:t2:

Look who’s talking. Of course, being an idiot you can’t even begin to comprehend just how ignorant you are.

Now go play with your lossless bluetooth. :rofl:

RAAT has been proven to be 100% accurate. If anyone thinks that it sounds different, they really should go back to fiddling with audiophile power cords and stuff.

Hi Boris

I can confirm this, assuming what I’ve read and seen online is true.

It was a test of Roon to see if the RAAT protocol is bit-correct.

It would be terrible to pay $830 for lifetime access and find out it’s a fake.

:v:t2:

You see Boris there you go again not knowing anything.

There are many use cases where BT makes sense.
Or having devices that can offer a slightly lower quality but have less latency.

This is something you would want if you actually took conference calls on either Zoom or Microsoft Teams, depending on the client… and you didn’t want to listen via head phones…

And you want to listen to a source that’s not wired into your stereo system. Like your laptop sitting on your work station while your stereo is behind you.

Oh wait, you have your gaming rig w your desktop monitors, or headphones on so you don’t have to worry about that. Oh wait… isn’t your gaming headset BT ?

I guess you don’t care about audio quality while playing your first person shooter.

But hey, what do you know?
Nothing about cables. (You can get CAT 7 w RJ45 ends.)
Nothing about standards committees where companies release products to a spec that hadn’t been finalized.
Nothing about running an LoB or software development.

So yes Boris, go in and rant and rave about roon.

As we can see here, people pay far more money for utter crap… But yes, Roon, unless you turn DSP on, sounds exactly the same as the original file.

Of course there are.

I used wired headphones for that, but sure. You could. For voice conferencing, BT’s lossy transmission is good enough.

There are perfectly fine ways of sending lossless audio, even at above Red Book resolution for this though.

Last time I did any gaming was when you were soiling your diapers.

You’d know better, although Candy Crush seems to be more of your thing.

You certainly can chop off connectors off of a CAT7 and attach RJ45s there. You will have a (possibly fine) CAT6e cable. Because as hard that might be for an idiot to comprehend, there is no such thing as CAT7 cable with RJ45s on it.

For you Roon is unlikely to add any value, you only listen to Taylor Tits anyway, and Roon requires some degree of intelligence to set up right.

Oh, how about you tell us how your glorious BT 5.666 iFooFoo dongle sends lossless audio? Oh, wait, it doesn’t…

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:arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :arrow_up: :rofl::laughing::joy:… absolutely top-notch.

Boris!

Sit down with @Smegel (Mike) and smoke a peace pipe with him.

At the same time, you can exchange knowledge with each other.

Maybe one or the other can even learn something new.

But I can imagine who will win this battle.

The loser has to hand over his absolutely fantastic sound system, including the HiFi Rose, to the winner.

Now the only question is…???

Would you accept Mike’s system as the winner?

…and what about Mike, would he gladly accept your sound system?

:popcorn: :sweat_smile:

:v:t2:

Pass.

Boris doesn’t like my Mon Acoustic Minis. And outside of my use case, I’d agree. They were purchased based on their sound, size, and aesthetics. They fit my office, but wouldn’t be useful elsewhere.

He doesn’t like the Rel, even though its a fast sub (Something Boris doesn’t understand that subs can be fast or slow where slow muddies the sound)

And he doesn’t seem to like the Rose 520. So that system is out.

And then there’s my old Arcam Solo Uno which I got at a great price. (Although its now going for $200-$250 if you can find an open boxed version) Which is a steal.

Then there’s my old VA Hadyns that I bought at a closeout and had for 25yrs now… just recapped them and replaced the resistors while I had them opened up. Not giving those up. Upgrading the XO to Clarity PURs well worth it.
(If you can find the Hadyns used for $250-400 a pair… spending $200-$250 to upgrade their XO will get you a killer sound for not that much.)

But that means you need to know how to use a soldering iron.

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I don’t know if Boris will be angry with me if I tell you that he has several Rose devices, including a 520.

Mike, I must say, you’re not too sensitive!

You always reply and you’re not a pushover like some others here who immediately blocked @BorisM. You are putting yourself in “fight”!!!

Boris is very direct, and yes, I like that because these days most people are just hypocritical. Many people immediately perceive insults, perhaps because many are unable to verbally counter them. Then they stop responding, block, or refuse to submit to the Neviau.

Well, all I can say is that he has already given many valuable tips here in the forum.

Sorry, I always chuckle when Boris makes those kinds of comparisons. But you always give a good comeback, too.

You post interesting things about your audio equipment; it would be nice if you could take some pictures.

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Good Lord, no! I think I have a subwoofer roughly equivalent to his RELs sitting in storage somewhere, it’s a DCM we got 30 years ago for maybe $200. The rest of his system is abvout as good, too.

Because “fast sub” is a meaningless drivel salesmen use to unload crap no one else takes on cliueless people like you. And, alas, even a budget SVS, apart from being actually a subwoofer, something that nothing REL makes is, is better made and “muddles the sound” far less than a REL. I’ll stick to my M&K for critical listening though.

Got enough of those already. How about something new?

Nice little box, but not an improvement over anything I already got. Not as good as a new Wiim one could get for the same money either.

Those are OK, but again, what would I do with them, not an improvement over anything I have (well, probably better than little Missions I listen to news on in the bedroom, but at least those fit behind the dresser).

Nope… nothing there would be of any use.

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