Eversolo T10 Scanning and organizing libraries

Is a RS131 on it’s way? This will prevent me from buying a T10.

Dear HiFi Rose users

We understand your concerns regarding the time it takes to scan external drives that contain a very large music library.

We are also aware of this area for improvement and are continuously working to optimize the scanning process so that large music collections can be indexed more quickly in future updates. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Rosehan,

First, I want to complement the Rose team for the dramatic improvements in RoseOne and in the weekly updates. It’s a huge leap forward and much appreciated.
However, this just leaves us users wanting more, just like a spouse…never satisfied.
In this case, indexing and cataloging a database has been a problem for years. A whole year was taken to fix the database. It still is very slow compared to much less expensive competitors and fails to identify and categorize the tracks again as the competitors do already.

I know you’re working on it but you have said this for literally years.
Can you give us any idea as to when this much needed improvement can be expected?

StandardModel

@ROSEHAN

Just to build on @StandardModel post and hopefully inject some action this time…

  • artists’ albums in music SSD database to be showed in alphabetical order as asked by @Bonte and myself

  • improve Rose One’s search function by song/track name in music SSD database as asked by @Querner

Please action these as long due requests from users, thanks.

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I wonder what would happen if HiFi Rose took the entire code base and dumped it into Cursor or Claude Code, told it what was deficient, and asked it to improve those areas of the code? My guess is it would probably refactor the whole thing as a first step. Might be worth doing.

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Tony22,

That’s an excellent idea. They should run everything through Claude. I do and it works wonders. First time through even Claude would probably choke but it is the only way to go.

StandardModel

Dear HiFi Rose users

Thank you for your positive feedback regarding Rose One and our recent updates. It is a great source of motivation for our team.

As many users have pointed out, the scanning speed of large music libraries, database indexing, metadata categorization, and search functionality are among the key areas we are currently working to improve.

In particular, we will forward the following requests mentioned in this thread to our development team for review:

  • Improved scanning performance for large music libraries
  • Enhanced accuracy of music metadata recognition and categorization
  • Improved track/song title search functionality
  • Improved album sorting options for artists

We would appreciate it if users could provide detailed information about each issue that they believe needs improvement, including exactly what is not working as expected and what kind of improvement they would like to see.

Having more specific examples, reproduction steps, screenshots, videos, and detailed descriptions of the situation helps us better understand the issue and is extremely valuable in identifying, investigating, and ultimately improving the problem.

The more detailed the information we receive, the more effectively our development team can analyze and address the issue.

Thank you for your cooperation and continued feedback.

Hi @ROSEHAN plenty of examples, including a variety of screenshots, have already been provided for your kind attention on this forum.

Could you please address both:

  • artists’ albums in music SSD database in Rose One to be showed in alphabetical order as asked by @Bonte and myself - other users have pointed this out to you - here’s a post from me on this issue - New app: Rose One - #221 by alessandro

  • improve Rose One’s search function by song/track name in music SSD database as asked by @Querner - here’s his post - Indexing artists in Rose One - #6 by Querner - same for my large library - trying to search for a song, for example “Hey Jude” should yield not only The Beatles original recording but also the numerous covers recorded by other artists that I know I have saved on my SSD Music collection. When I use the search function, I get the same poor results shown by @Querner or - most of the time - no results whatsoever.

Please fix these, they are long (and long…) overdue. Thanks

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PLEASE implement a way to organize our library by artist album and not by artist, because now i have thousand of albums with only 1 track, just because it organize my collection by artists. We asked this since years, but you still don’t understand our needs. Thank you

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Dear HiFi Rose users

We take these improvement requests very seriously as well.

I have already compiled the feedback in detail and forwarded it to our software development team for review.

We understand the concerns and expectations that have been raised, and we will do our best to deliver the improvements users are requesting as quickly as possible.

Thank you for your continued feedback, patience, and support. It helps us prioritize and improve the HiFi ROSE experience for everyone.

I completely understand the frustration. Managing a music library clogged with thousands of single-track albums is a nightmare for those who love organization, and it’s frustrating to see such a basic feature ignored for years. However, I have to be very honest: I don’t think there’s any hope of this feature being implemented anytime soon. The platform’s development logic now seems geared exclusively toward algorithmic streaming and curated playlists, completely neglecting the needs of those who own and want to organize their own local collection or a traditionally structured library.

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@Grammophone

We fully understand the requests from users regarding large music library management, album organization, and search functionality, and these concerns are not being ignored.

In fact, these topics are continuously being discussed with our development team, and we have recently compiled and forwarded detailed user feedback and specific use cases to help them better understand the issues being raised.

In particular, the following areas are currently under active review:

  • Improving large music library scanning and indexing performance
  • Enhancing metadata recognition and classification accuracy
  • Improving search functionality for SSD and local music libraries
  • Improving Artist Album-based organization and library management

That said, these features involve core database structures and library management systems, so they require careful evaluation and development before implementation.

User feedback plays an important role in shaping our development priorities, and we are committed to continuously improving the library management experience for our customers.

We appreciate your patience and encourage you to continue sharing specific examples and suggestions, as they help us better understand user needs and provide valuable input to our development team.

@ROSEHAN Thank you for your reply, but I’m not entirely satisfied. The device was designed and sold with a built-in SSD slot specifically to handle large local music libraries. This is its native function, not a secondary feature. Hearing about “careful evaluation and development” years after its market launch is unacceptable for customers who have invested in your hardware. Scanning performance, metadata accuracy, and search are not optional features, but the minimum requirement for using the product. As you rightly say, hope is the last thing to die, but users’ patience has its limits. I look forward to concrete and timely software updates, not further promises.

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@Grammophone

Thank you for your candid feedback. We completely understand your concerns and appreciate you sharing them with us.

We agree that library scanning, metadata management, and search functionality are important core features for users who manage large local music collections. Your comments have been shared with our software team, and we recognize the importance of continued improvements in these areas.

While we are unable to provide a specific timeline at this moment, please be assured that your feedback has been acknowledged and will be carefully considered as part of our ongoing development efforts.

Thank you for your patience, continued support, and valuable feedback.

@ROSEHAN

Thanks for the reply, but I need to be very clear: it’s no longer acceptable to hear platitudes like “your feedback has been shared with the team” or “it will be carefully considered.”

The point isn’t whether these features are important: they always have been, from the day this device was designed, advertised, and sold with a built-in SSD slot for managing large local music libraries. We’re not talking about marginal improvements or advanced requests, but essential features that should have been reliable and mature at launch.

Fast and stable scanning, accurate metadata, and truly effective search aren’t extras: they’re the bare minimum to make the product compliant with its intended use.

After years, reading that you’re still in the “evaluation” phase, without a roadmap, deadlines, or concrete commitments, is frankly unacceptable. User patience cannot be treated as an unlimited resource, especially by those who have already invested money and trust in your hardware. At this point, no further generic reassurances are needed. We need concrete, measurable, and timely software updates, with clear indications of what you intend to fix and when. Until then, your responses seem like just a way to stall.

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Rosehan,

I appreciate all of your responses. I think the thing that troubles most HiFi Rose product owners is this: HiFi Rose does the very hard tasks in an outstanding world class manner, yet it stumbles on the simplest of things year after year. We all agree that the hardware design and construction is world class. The software has had problems but with RoseOne it has leaped into the same league as the best of the others.
However, the very simplest of tasks, indexing internal music files, parsing them, searching, proper thumbnails, issues that were standardized decades ago are still unresolved year after year. Give your database program to Anthropic for a day and tomorrow you can distribute a cleaned up good version that does all these things efficiently.
Why is it that the internal database - the simplest of tasks is the worst performing year after year? It’s not new, it’s not hard, it just takes someone who knows what they’re doing. Whoever is in charge of the database functions needs to find a different position.

StandardModel

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Nothing has been learned. Same day, same platitudes with no solutions.

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Dear HiFi Rose users

First of all, we would like to thank everyone who took the time to share their honest feedback.

We agree that features such as library scanning, metadata handling, search functionality, and thumbnail management are not simply convenience features, but important parts of the core user experience.

We are also well aware that these topics have been raised consistently by our users over a long period of time. Because of this, we understand not only the current frustrations but also the disappointment that can arise when the same concerns continue to be discussed without the level of progress users expect.

We continue to work on improvements related to library and database functionality, and several recent software updates, including RoseOne, have been part of those ongoing efforts. At the same time, we acknowledge that the current experience has not yet reached the level that many of our users expect and deserve.

While we are not in a position to provide specific timelines or commitments at this moment, please know that the feedback shared here is being taken seriously and remains an important part of our development priorities. We will also make every effort to communicate future improvements more clearly whenever possible.

We sincerely appreciate your feedback and your continued support. We remain committed to improving the overall user experience and delivering a better product over time.

Thank you.

With all due respect, @moderators and @ROSEHAN, the response above sounds remarkably similar to responses that have been provided over the past year—well-intentioned, professionally written, and full of commitments about future improvements.

The challenge is that many customers have heard these same assurances before. What continues to frustrate the community is not the lack of promises, but the lack of visible follow-through and measurable outcomes.

Please understand that customers do read these responses carefully. We remember the commitments that were made. We remember the statements that improvements are being prioritized, that support is being strengthened, that stability is being addressed, and that communication will improve. Yet too often the conversation ends there, with little or no follow-up regarding what was actually accomplished, what remains outstanding, and why certain commitments have not been fulfilled.

This is why some customers are becoming skeptical. Trust is built when commitments are followed by results and accountability. Without that second step, each new response begins to sound increasingly similar to the last.

I would encourage HiFi Rose to move beyond broad statements of intent and provide specific updates. What was promised? What has been completed? What remains in progress? What timelines can customers reasonably expect?

Those answers would likely do far more to restore confidence than another list of future initiatives.

For reference, below is a response from another thread that conveyed many of the same themes. I think it is fair for customers to ask what tangible progress has been made since that statement was originally posted.

that is a big problem with hifi rose, lot of bla bla bla but no action.

we have a ferrari that drives like a fiat 500.

please don’t say you’re sorry, i heard that before (sorry by Madonna)

Look at eversolo, younger company but cheaper good products with a very good software (at least much better than rose).

Anyway as my roon subscription end up today, i find a solution to don’t use the bad software of rose, i have install on my nas lyricon it is a bit like roon (of course not so complete as it’s free) and finally i don’t have a thousand of album with only 1 track as i have with rose one. I try to don’t be rude but why is so difficult to implement a so easy option than organize a library by album artist (even very cheap stramer have this option) especialy when the community asked this option since years.

I will really regret roon, but too expensive for me.

NEVER AGAIN A HIFI ROSE PRODUCT

if your staff is not that clever to create a good non buggy software, then (as someone already mentioned) send the program to an IA.

It is now 2 1/2 year i got my rs250A, the only moment i really enjoyed it was the past year with my roon subscription (btw maybe you should make an agreement with roon to offer a lifetime subscription with your product so you will not have to pay for uncompetent staff)