And none of these have anything at all to do with sound quality. And no, Spotify Lossless does not require a newer version of Android yet, let alone WiFi6 having no effect on sound quality.
On price, sure, they’d still be more expensive. Neither would provide either any sonic improvements (not that there were any difference currently) and they would still be years behind on features, unless they’d chnage corporate direction.
This back-and-forth serves no positive purpose. Some Rose users are so blinded by their love of flowers that they can’t offer an objective assessment. The streaming device market has become crowded. Specifications are already very high and are essentially comparable in streamers ranging from the WiiM Ultra for $490 to the Rose RS151 for $6,000.
Only the faithful buy with their eyes, not their ears. 
Boris, you were behaving so nicely on the other thread…
Pay attention…
Also Spotify didn’t backport their new library to Android 7.1 Which is why Rose can’t offer Spotify native to their devices. That’s a sound quality issue mate. Note that if you take in consideration the issue w Android 7.1 it could explain why Spotify didn’t backport their latest library.
Wi-fi.
If you live in a major city… you’ll find that there’s a lot of wi-fi traffic on multiple SSIDs that compete / interfere with your traffic. When I lived in River North… there were my neighbors, nearby apartment buildings and every car / phone acting as a hot spot all on the same frequencies. So yes bandwidth can be an issue and impact sound quality. You can see this in terms of pauses between songs while your device is buffering the stream.
BT
We’ve been down this road before. Its a question of what codecs are supported. Its a question of what drivers you have… So the combined dongles tend to have 4.2 and no AptX lossless.
That’s a sound quality issue.
Not to mention some external BT devices like the MB20 (McIntosh) have setting for either HD or low latency. Not found in either the T8 or RS130.
So there you have it sonic issues.
Now the one thing I did mention was the HDMI out. That’s the only thing that doesn’t impact sound quality.
The bottom line … Rose could move to a newer release of Android. Its not going to be easy or cheap. Whenever you go to a different major number… its going to have some issues. This is why some Linux distros like Rocky will tell you to do a completely new install.
Rose could also say fsck it and go w a stripped down Linux version. The issue here is that it would be expensive and there’s a high likelihood that some stuff like UI would have to change.
Note that w the advancements in AI, its possible for Rose to use Claude or something similar to speed up the delivery time and reduce costs, but they would still have to do a bit of work. YMMV.
The Ian Canada products are pretty good, however… the internal clocks in both the ROSE and the Eversolo are overkill already.
Sure you have drift, but you’re not syncing recording gear but playback.
Indeed. And even buying with ears is dangerous unless you actually do proper blind testing.
AI, right… Please, please, try to speak of something you know anything about, not some AI slop scraped from Reddit’s basement-dwellers.
And RoseOS specifically has a custom audio subsystem that does bitperfect to 768/32 and DSD512. What stock Android does is completely irrelevant.
Except, of course, for the fact that it is compatible. Android 7.0 and up. Maybe one day you will learn to use primary sources instead of beleiving whatever some vendor wants you to believe.
Which is not a sound quality issue as normally understood, it’s a networking issue. And WiFi 6 won’t help there anyway.
When I lived in River North, Uptown, West Loop, or in a middle of Silicon Valley for that matter, WiFi congestion has never been an issue for audio.
Because the primary usage for a multi-thousand dollars streamer is some lossy BT connection. Of course. Not a sonic issue either though.
They could. As of now, it would not provide any benefits for the functionality Rose advertises. There are some newer streaming services that require newer versions at least for their native apps, but it’s not even a given that those are required with a custom app like Rose would need. For what Rose should do (as advertised functionality) now it would be of no benefit.
That’s one of those things that audiophiles were convinced they need despite their utter uselessness…
Boris you need to do a bit more research.
Spotify has a library for Android 7 and forward.
That doesn’t mean all features are supported in those libraries or that its the latest library.
You need to learn a bit more about software development and support. Also marketing speak.
Just keep quoting AI drivel. You couldn’t have even been bothered to check what version of Android your Rose has until it was shoved in your face a few times. You can pretend to know jack about “software development” to the golden-eared audiophiles who believe in magic fuses here but not to anyone else.
BTW, Spotify themselves (what did I say about primary sources?) very much agrees that Lossless is availalble on any supported Android platform. Which includes anything from 7.0 and up…
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