Here’s another message for people who have too much money in their pockets and are easily taken advantage of by believing in such nonsense. But if you believe in moonlight cables, go ahead and buy them. 
I just checked on Amazon and now the $7 cable is being sold for $4000! 
Snakeoil Seller
They never really disappear because of willing clients
Do you really need to drag ASR stuff over here? No Rose content whatsoever.
Vraiment du temps à perdre. Vous essayez de vous rassurer ?
He who has ears, let him hear. 
Well there you go Bonte,
Go out and buy a ton of $7.00 Amazon cables and then resell them for a huge profit.
I’d take what Amir has to say w a huge grain of salt.
No, its obvious that you don’t need a 4K interconnect … but what did Amir actually do w his testing… and some of his comments. (e.g. "There was some differences, but we can ignore that… they measured the same… " )
Kimber isn’t necessarily snake oil either. They do make reputable cables.
The issue w Amir is that he doesn’t always know how to test products and he doesn’t actually spend time listening to the products.
And here’s the thing.
Can you hear a difference?
Digital? No.
Analog? Maybe. It will depend on the cable, the connectors, and what equipment you have in your chain.
Could you ABX test it and hear a difference?
I know the odds are against it… but who knows. YMMV.
Keep in mind that Amir also claimed that there were no differences between a Sparkos Op Amp and a TI op amp either.
Correct!
When I want to see my album art, I use Roon on a second TV, and it’s really nice and big and easy to read. Well, at least for my aging eyes.
Actually, this was about RCA cables, so why are you bringing up 4K?
I’ve never heard a difference, but maybe that’s because of my “budget hi-fi” setup.
I even had a nice speaker cable custom-made for my new Perlisten Audio R7t speakers, and even there I can’t hear a difference. The cable maker contacted me and said I should break it in for 50 hours. I said: I’m from the measurement faction and I don’t believe in such nonsense. I only bought the pair of cables because they look nice and “thick” and are very well made. At 4mm² and 5m, a normal, good-quality cable would have been perfectly adequate. I’ve been using Sommer Cable for a long time, and this one is just thicker, which, as I said, looks more robust. SommerCable SPM 825, 10mm² per connection at the amplifier and 4x 5mm² for bi-wiring. Again, I didn’t hear angels singing and I’m not lying to myself just because the cable was a bit more expensive.
Cheers
I keep forgetting that English isn’t your first language.
The 4K is shorthand for $4,000 USD which is the price of the cable.
Is the cable worth it? Maybe… if you’ve got the money to burn and you’ve got a system that costs more than $100,000.00 USD. Or for you $1.000.000,00 EUR.
Kimber is a legit company so not snake oil. Look at the components and price it out. Unless the cable is a coaxial cable, the interconnects are going to be analog.
That said, let me see if I can give you an example of Amir’s ‘testing’.
Take two capacitors that have a value of 3.3uF. Amir tests both. They both test to be 3.3uF within the allowable margin of error. Slight differences, but because they test to be 3.3uF Amir declares that they are the same.
But one costs $1.20 USD the other $350 USD.
So Amir goes on to claim that the $350 USD capacitor is ‘snake oil’ and that the capacitors will sound the same even because they both measure to 3.3uF.
He did this w op amps and his faithful cultists believes in his ‘testing’.
Now personally, I make my own speaker cables, and could make my own interconnect if I have the time… of course… with an AIO system like the RS520 I don’t need any.
@Bonte , with respect to speaker cables…
Yes, different cables can sound different. Which is better is subjective.
Now for the fun part.
In your home, unless you’ve got a well treated room and you’ve got a decent enough system… (which you do…) You’re not going to hear the difference. In terms of measurements… they do measure differently depending on the cable. But its going to be in terms of impedance and some difference in signal strength. You can see enough YT videos. How much difference is subjective.
But here’s the kicker… One clown (Jay’s Audio or something like that.) Had in a very expensive speaker, and system. Had his buddies over. Compared lamp cord vs very expensive speaker cables.
They heard a difference… but they preferred the lamp cord.
Personally I make my own speaker cables. If you buy decent parts, you can get good sound for not too much money.
Sorry Mikey, I have to apologize to you for the first time. Of course I know what 0.5K is. I even noticed it this morning. But I was already rushing off to work. But I’m being honest and telling you. I could have steered the conversation back to the fun stuff, to be a little silly with you again.
Oh, stop with that scumbag.
You can tell he can keep everything he wants, as long as he reports positive things. That’s what Boris always means. They’re all YouTube sluts.
I usually make my own cables. But I’m getting older and I don’t feel like tinkering anymore. Unfortunately, I just couldn’t get my hands on the splitters. They’re from the States and I couldn’t find them online. Braided sleeving, spade connectors, and whether they’re lockable, lamellar, or hollow banana plugs, you can find good ones online.
Ok, There are a couple of Jays on YT. One is Jay’s Iyagi who is actually very good and a nice guy.
The other Jay and I think you know who I mean is an Audio-fool.
He makes his money buying used gear to flip. Buys into the snake oil stuff and tries to cut corners thinking he knows what he’s doing.
He moved from Florida to Texas. Converted his detatched garage into two listening rooms.
He didn’t hire an architect, was his own primary contractor. Made so many costly mistakes that you had to wonder if he was doing this to attract viewers to watch his train wreck.
He was running a separate power line to his garage and didn’t get any permits or got the area marked out to make sure he wasn’t going to hit any gas lines or other buried cables. And he did hit a gas line. He got lucky nothing went boom… but I’m sure he’s getting hit w fines.
Then in the garage… the layout made no sense. This is where an architect would have helped. Then he went and bought a bunch of 8 gauge wire to run in the walls. He then had his electrical contractor twist the wire. He then found out that the outlets would only accept a max size of 10 gauge so all that wire was wasted. (He also finally figured out that for what he was doing… if there was an electrical fire… his insurance company wouldn’t cover it.) The subcontractor put in the wrong panel and the list goes on.
Makes you wonder if you should trust this guy.
Note: He finally signed on to be a dealer for a couple of products but is still trying to flip on the high end of things.
As to making cables… They are still fun. Easy.
Of course you would. Got some links to the threads where they’ve ripped you a new one?
unlike some of the “audiophile” cables, these aren’t even decently designed. Of course one needs to know a little bit about electricity to understand that, so of course pretentious clowns measuring capacitors by inductance would not understand that.
So our widdle Mikey had never actually tested anything, never heard any difference, but he is just sooo sure that people who actually did, and unlike widdle Mikey have education and experience in the subject matter are doing it wrong 
And of course you have heard that difference in a blind test. Oh, wait, you didn’t…
And what difference will a $10000 cable would make there?
Just because being extremely gullible you have convinced yourself that a $350 capacitor (with great inductance, natch!) sounds better does not mean that it is real. And it is not.
Just get Bose Wave Radio.
And here comes Boris trying to get another thread shut down.
No Boris, they didn’t do anything but ban me.
Why? Because I was asking questions that no one, including Amir could answer, and I was getting dog piled by his sycophants. So they claimed I was just being argumentative.
The reality Boris is that I called Amir out for his ‘testing’ methodology and that his ‘tests’ didn’t refute or address the claims of audiophiles when it came to op-amps.
Heck Boris, I even posted a YT link that refuted Amir’s claim here for you… but clearly you didn’t watch it.
And I just gave you an example of why Amir’s tests were wrong. Its not to say his tests are wrong when it comes to outputs of amps, but that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. (Like you … )
I’ve met his kind over the years at client sites and over drinks w the clients had a good laugh. Can’t code? Go into management and get the F out of the way.
But Boris you raise a seriously good example.
I said I don’t need any external cables w my RS520 AIO. And your pithy comback falls flat. I do have a USB B to USB A cable for my PC so I can get Lossless, along w using a TOSLink cable to my MB20 that I used on a prior system to add BT over the combo unit that ships w the unit. But neither are necessary.
So why don’t you like a good little boy go and play on ASR unless you have something positive to add here.
Oh and BTW, you can go out and find a lot more people have called Amir out. Especially when he’s now selling product and some of his reviews have been called out for being a shill.
Buh-bye
That’s the one I mean!
He might seem nice, like they all do in their videos. I don’t trust any of them. When it comes to money, most of them would sell their souls to the devil.
That’s the absolute best… Oh men, I love these comparisons and they always make me chuckle. Without these comparisons, it would be a dead forum.
I’ve met him in person and also on a discord group.
He knows what he’s talking about.
(Unlike a few people here… namely your hero.)
He’s not a shill, but there is an issue… YouTube Reviewers need to get product and companies will not want to lend out their gear to reviewers if they know that they’ll get a bad review.
So they tend to couch what they say, or they don’t do the review at all.
And yes, you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.
I found the Mon Acoustic speakers thru Jay. I saw them at Axpona in '24 and in '25 bought the mini s at the show because I liked what I heard.
For a near field speaker, they are really good.
Then paired it w a Rel T/5x. It was an impulse buy.
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Boris,
You want to play?
If you’ve used a land line in the past 35yrs… the odds are your call went over a 3-1/1-1 cross connect.
I wrote over 80% of the PM/GM code.
You drive a car? Which one? That integrated Map uses code I wrote.
You ever got in a fender bender? Went to a repair shop? Some of my code was there. You used Allstate? yeah. There too.
And that’s just some of it.
So please go away. Poser.
It’s better to drink clean spring water or hibiscus flower tea, which lowers blood pressure and doesn’t make you as jittery as the sugar bomb cola.
