Bonte is secretly a cheese head. 
USA
Its about a 2-3 hour drive from Chicago… depending on traffic.
I would have thought Bonte to be more of a Focal guy.
Or the Mofi Sourcepoint V10s. if he wants to stay in American Brands.
Hey Mike, that was another one of Boris’s sayings that made me laugh. It has nothing to do with homework. It’s always just the comparisons that make me chuckle. If you held your own against Amir, that’s fine. They’re all just posers to me anyway, all trying to rip you off. You know his LS, do you really think they’re worth over 6K? Everyone just wants to make money.
Hi VIK,
Actually, nothing. I love the live sound of the horns. I’m keeping the Fortes and they’ll go into my secondary system.
The main reason is that one of the Fortes is positioned too close to the wall on the side. It’s not that the RoomPerfect doesn’t compensate, but I still have my concerns. I’m being honest and saying it publicly here!
Everyone keeps criticizing Boris. Sure, he’s direct, but I think he’s incredibly knowledgeable about hi-fi. The tip came from Boris. I was initially considering the Arendal 1528 & MoFi SourcePoint 888 or SourcePoint V10 Master Edition. Another tip from Boris:
The Arendal 1528 is also somewhat similar to the Perlisten, with its built-in DPC array. It is designed to closely resemble horns and is a very linear loudspeaker. I didn’t have enough money for the S7t, and the extra 10K isn’t justified for me given the marginal difference.
You’d be slightly more believable (as much as that could be possible) if you weren’t the only one bringing up Amir, and your sore behind, in every thread. I don’t even have an account there, while you still can’t get over all those dumb electrical and acoustic engineers there not appreciating all the great wisdom you were going to impress on them.
Uh huh.
If it is you calling anyone’s expertise into question, well, that’s to be expected.
You might have been somewhat believable (mostly, because nobody cares) if you stuck to regaling us with stories of Mikey the Great and Terrible, writer of all the software in the world and manager of every company in the universe.
Fortunately for the readers you do not stop there and insist on imparting your “expertise” on us. So anyone can see that you are the guy who is full of himself but does not even know how inductance is different from capacitance, opines on Android upgrades without knowing either which version is used currently or whether missing services are dependent on a newer version, and posts links to youtube shills as a “proof” of something.
Just because your teachers in the special ed told you that you are a very special snowflake and that your opinions are very important does not mean that others do not see both that you usually have no clue what you are talking about and that you are furiously projecting your complexes here in a desperate bid for affirmation.
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Okay VIK,
I chose the R7t, not because of the extra €10,000, but because I’m not a big fan of overly bright treble. The silk dome tweeter in the R7t is perfectly adequate. I get a headache from, let’s say, excessively high frequencies, and listening to music quickly becomes impossible for me. Since I listen to a lot of music, an average of six hours a day, I need speakers that are detailed but not overly treble-heavy.
Yes, VIK, and you’re right, and you already know my preferences! I didn’t utilize the bass on the Fortes, and I’m not using it on the R7t either. You know I have a jack-of-all-trades. The Fortes and the R7t are my main speakers, crossed over at 50Hz. My two subwoofers (2.2 system) handle the bass.
In any case, the R7t come very close to the live sound atmosphere of the Fortes. But the best thing for me is that these speakers have very little directional effect. You get sound everywhere in the room, whether I’m standing by a speaker on the left or right, it doesn’t matter. The horns were/are more directional, where you could also soften the high frequencies somewhat by turning the speakers inwards or outwards. But I didn’t need to do that with the Fortes. RoonPerfect literally did everything perfectly.
The DPC array is completely new to me, and it really is a difference because the treble isn’t radiated towards the ceiling and floor for the most part. Since I usually adapt so quickly, often after just two tracks, I can still say that I heard some nuances in the high/midrange frequencies. But I’ll be realistic and say that I probably had good, clear hearing that day because the initial excitement about the new speakers had worn off.
There you go, Mike, it works with you after all! 
A little fun is a must. 
Although I don’t get it. Those cheeseheads, they’re Dutch after all… look at Frau Antje and her cheese.
Stop it, LoL, I can’t anymore… this phrase is number 1 in my top 10. 
Cheese head?
You can google Wisconsin Cheese Head and you’ll understand.
Or just watch a Packers game.
Nothing against Perlisten ?sp? More home theater vibe.
I see Amir and Boris have a lot in common.
Like to play the role of the ignorant bully.
I’ve seen Boris’s posts long before I got here and how he’s chased away several people.
Always having to show that he’s the smartest kid who rides the short bus.
And I don’t like bullies.
Outside of his playground, you’ll find mixed results.
There are those who listen to the measurements that like him.
And then there are those who actually listen to the music and make conscious choices on what they buy.
My example of capacitors measuring the same, yet sounding different is a great example of Amir and Boris. Same for his videos and posts on op-amps. As well as cables. Even shared a link to a video on op-amps that disputes Amir with Boris and I’m sure he never watched it.
Bonte,
You’re funny.
You buy very expensive home theater speakers because you’re treble sensitive.
To show you a better option…
Now they’ll go down to 38Hz , so you’ll need your subs if you truly need to go lower than that.
I suspect in room response would be slightly lower. Much easier to position than the towers.
The Mofi V10s are another example … But they are hefty and harder to move. (Andrew Jones is da GOAT!)
Closer to your home… Radiant’s new towers would also work.
Or if you want to save some money…
[Definitely an excellent choice for those who own Rose gear.]
Not to say that the Perlisten is a bad choice. They are good speakers… and may excel if you like to listen to dubstep. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5OeQWL1UWI
That way you can spend that 4K on your Kimber interconnect.
Ah yes, that reminds me of NFL, which I used to watch here in the old days. Okay, Mike, you’ve opened my eyes.
Note that the price of the Platimon shown doesn’t include the stands.
They are interesting and if you’re not going w the VC II which is another option but more expensive…
No, I don’t want them. I want floorstanding speakers.
And yes, I also had the BMR towers on my radar (thanks to Boris). Unfortunately, there’s no distributor in Germany. But I’ve read quite a bit about the BMR towers, and they’re supposed to be really good.
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You want floor standing?
Go w the Platimon V1 and V2 combo.
Your ears will thank me, but your wallet wont.
You could also go w Vienna Acoustics but its not going to be your home theater sound.
Personally I’d do the Platimons because they don’t weigh 200lbs and when paired w a pair of good subs… much better sound than your Perlistens.
The best threads here are the ones that get shut down. Even money on this one being next.
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That may all be true. And ribbon tweeters are good too. I know them from Elac speakers.
But for me, the one disadvantage of the JET tweeter (an Air Motion Transformer) is this:
It offers extremely high-resolution sound, but has inherent design drawbacks:
It can be perceived as analytical, sharp, or bright in the high-frequency range. Furthermore, it’s often picky about the electronics, requires high-quality source material, and offers a narrower sweet spot than a dome tweeter.
…and I posted above that I don’t like excessive heights. Besides, I don’t want stands! I’m happy with my 2.2 system.
I don’t know that I’d say AMTs are ‘sharp’ or ‘bright’. They are fast.
In terms of ‘beaming’ or directional? Sure. But there are a couple of things to consider.
- Wave guides
- Instead of positioning speakers at you. place them facing forward. (30 degrees toe out)
- Crossovers matter.
I would describe the Mon Acoustic speakers as being crisp and clean.
But they aren’t for everyone. Just like horns.
They’ve upgraded the mini mons. XO is still around 2.5kHz which is higher than average although they’ve played around w the XO a bit in terms of ‘tuning’ for different tastes.
The Mofi Sourcepoint line seems to be more your style. Unless you want to go into a full range/coax single speaker like Cube Audio. There’s also a German brand too but the name skips my mind right now.
Well I’m sure Boris is going to do his best.
And the best topics are the ones that focus on the Rose gear rather than something like this.
Bonte started it as a way to rile up the crowd who are into their components vs the music.
Of course Bonte and his Perlistens are fair game to tease. But then again w eARC, you could use the RS520 for a 2.2 system… not something I’d recommend over an AV multichannel system.
No problem thanks to 3400.
Perlisten R7t
Frequency response: 27 Hz – 32 kHz bass reflex
That’s perfectly adequate, and I don’t even hear half of it when you can only hear up to 14 kHz.
Sensitivity 90 dB (2.83 V/1m)… well, that comes pretty close to Klipsch, even if it’s still 9 dB short. But my 400W amplifier at 4 ohms handles it well.
Since I have two Portet subwoofers, I also run them in bass reflex mode, and if I want, the pictures will fly off the wall. But I listen at conversational volume, and at that level, I get a nice bass foundation and spaciousness. The room is also well-suited for it. Everything is carpeted, and there are velvet curtains in front of the windows. So, it’s not a room with thin walls or an echo. Furthermore, it is not a matchstick construction, as is common in the States. Not in cities like New York, but most houses have drywall and matchsticks. My apartment is properly brick-built, if that means anything to you. So, brick upon brick, laid in a bond pattern.