Network Switch with SFP and external clock

ROSE Products RS130
#101

Okay so what audio equipment do you own or work with that’s more exotic than Esoteric? I highly doubt someone as ignorant as you is employed by a reputable audio company, but I could be wrong. So tell me , what brands do you work with and in what capacity? You and other trolls here are mostly bums. You can never confidently say which products you’ve tested under what conditions before spewing your nonsense and imaginary ideas. If I’m wrong, list the products you’ve tested, under what conditions, and your conclusions with supporting data.

Sorry but wiim streamer isn’t analogous to a Porsche . Your skills appear to be misguided and ignorant because you don’t even understand the first thing about science. Science is testing with real world empirical data, which you have never done with any of the higher end Rose products. You ASR lackeys use headphone equipment to test components designed for high end speakers , your tests are fundamentally flawed and ignorant of basic scientific principles. And you guys are so arrogant, you don’t see how absurd your claims are. Until you understand these basic concepts of science you’re career and skills will never improve, and you will never be able to afford better equipment. That’s why you only have access to cheap components now, you don’t have the maturity of a scientist worthy of a high paying job, like the other trolls and ASR people. If I’m wrong, give me a list of your current components in your system, or describe and identify the high end equipment you work with and in what capacity.

I don’t mean to say these things to hurt or offend, and we desperately need more young audiophiles in our hobby. But you young trolls need more humility and follow the scientific method of actually testing products and collecting data before disparaging products other people have owned and are intimately familiar with. It’s a form of arrogance and ignorance to disparage without actually testing or using the product.

#102

I work with audio equipement which is far, far more advanced from which you have. It is not really a topic of our conversation because what is important is knowledge and expirence, but I will sastisfy your curiosity. For instance I have had 192 kHz recording, experimenting, comparing and playing more than 20 years ago. Brands I am working with are Prism, Apogee, Neve, UAD, Drawmer, Neumann, Dynaudio, Adam etc… That gear is installed in more than million € worth proffesional recording studios. In a few word - I produce things on the reference sound which you cannot have at home.

If you want to be an good audiophile you must start to talk with arguments, not with a salary cap. I can have anything I want, I am not some poor bloke, but I choose wisely equipement for my living room. But best of the best is reserved for my studio.

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#103

The most delicious irony here is that even that Wiim dumbcycle keeps going on about, with its sub output, high-pass for speakers, and (albeit rudimentary) room correction, is pretty much guaranteed to sound much better than anything he could cobble together from fancy switches and expensive powercords.

I can understand business reasoning (margins on something like 130 must be very sweet) but it is disappointing that instead of following up their early devices, which were quite solid, with something that adds useful features and keeps up with competition, Rose decided instead to peddle snake oil to audiophools…

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#104

Like I thought, you dont have any experience at all with the products we are discussing. If you think you can make brand conclusions on every brand without even having any experience with them, it’s just ridiculous. You don’t even have a real streamer or any experience with a real 2 channel system. If you do, describe the components on the 2 channel system, from streaming, power, cables, to speakers, and your thoughts with another reference system.

Every person ASR followers like you are arrogant bums. When you find one that actually owns or is familiar with a true 2 channel audio system, let’s talk. Until then, stay in the wiim forum or beginner home theater systems and headphone forums.

#105

No, bumcycle is definitely a troll. No way someone that stupid and obnoxious in real life would survive into adulthood with his limbs intact!

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#106

I aswered your question. THe fact that you never heard of equipement I mentioned is not my fault. It is far more advanced from what you have. I can make conclusions based on my engeneering knowledge and expirience. Equipment which you have is not made by flatearthers, is made by engeneers. And you must respect people who make high end audio gear and hi end music production because they know better than you. Making false presumptions do not help you either.

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#107

Hello @Burle,

don’t bother. He blocked you long ago because he has no more arguments.

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#108

I am kind of curious though, studio grade equipment isn’t my thing, are there any real professional products that use SFPs and stuff? I looked at Trinnov, MOTU, RME, and the only SFP I could find was one for MADI, which of course isn’t applicable for home listening.

#109

Those audio gear are not what we are discussing on this forum. Youre confusing high end 2 channel set up with other forms of audio, like lifestyle, home theater, multi channel, and headphone. Youre still a beginner in 2 channel, like Amir and other ASR guys. It’s totally different. When you get a set of serious 2 channel speakers and collect data from in-room response , then youre opinion will be taken more seriously. Right now, you literally have no idea or experience the subjects we are discussing.

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#110

I can see that you do not have a smallest clue what you are talking about. About in room response, few places in which I do work from time to time have special engineers coming every month to calibrate room response. And they are payed massive money for their expertise. So, stop taliking about me or you and let’s get back to the topic - can you explain to me what an clock ond the switch has to do with anudio clock, how they are related?

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#111

These days most popular connetion in studios is Dante. It is ordinary CAT5e network cable which interconnects all audio gear, over ordinary network switches, with capacity of 512 stereo channels of 192/32 resolution :wink: Theoreticaly it can work over SPF and optic as ethernet is independent of cable medium, but you can find rarely something above CAT5e in studios.
But, I can assure you that Dante will come to home HiFi in next 10 years, not because is needed, it will come because it will provoke a need for new gear by audiophiles.

MADI is old thing plagued with problems with latency and jitter.

#112

Yeah, pretty much what I thought, thanks.

#113

You can’t answer my question. Describe your 2 channel system from power cord to streamer to speaker, your reference system for 2 channel . Obviously you don’t have so just give it a rest .

#114

LOL, powercord. Really, this guy must be a troll…:laughing:

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#115

The guy is in the studio and makes good videos.

everything about Dante :arrow_down:

Activate the translator (then you can hear if he knows what he’s talking about)

:v:t2:

#116

Why should I do that? It is irellevant to our topic.

#117

Thank you, interesting video… I will check video next days, today I have to travel 600 kilometers… I do understand Deutsch, but I am little rusty for writing on German. Whole life I rent apartments to German people :slight_smile:

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#118

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#119

Heh, looks like the low-IQ brigade is out in force, hiding posts they cut s bit too close :slight_smile:

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