Seriously Considering RS130 purchase; have questions

ROSE Products RS130
#41

There are two “problems” with null tests: 1) it’s far too complicated for an average “audiophile” to perform, and 2) even when the null test shows that devices X and Y output exactly the same signal, an “audiophile” will look you in the eyes and explain that there is something in the music that is not being captured by the null test but causing a “night and day” difference that wife hers from the kitchen.

For your blind test scenario, people will likely hear great differences even you use the same device in all five positions anyway, that’s why one does multiple comparisons, in random order.

There is an interesting philosophical discussion to be had about the nature of perceived differences in sound. If one believes in, for example, green markers, and paints all of his CDs, and is convinced that they sound better now, then there is something that the marker did for that particular person. It’s just that this improvement is not transferable to anyone else, and it exists quite independently of the marker still bein on CDs or not. Interesting stuff, but rather disconnected from there (not) being any difference in sound waves coming from the speaker.

#42

Boris is enjoying his topping Amazon amp and Chinese copy streamer. He’s on top of the world - maybe one day we can attain the funds to buy those items too.

#43

Obviously you are new here… But that does not mean that you have to keep proving that you are an idiot, we already know that.

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#44

Regardless new contributor or veteran, I fail to see the benefits to any of us here for this constant, caustic bickering and name-calling. As the OG of this thread I am depressed that since initial, worthwhile contributions back in April, this thread has digressed into whatever this is now…

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#45

Sorry ab out that. Looked like this thread had really ran its course anyway, there really was no point in resurrecting it after 4 months…

#46

I’m advocating civility of discussion. I find worth in back and forth and variety of positions and thoughts. Though I’ve yet to make a purchase, I still consider the RS130 at the top of my streamer want list.

I need to decide on a DAC, as the card in my Viola Crescendo is OK, but just that. As with many I suspect, these decisions are carefully considered around limited discretionary funds.

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#47

I’m all for civility, but it has to be mutual and be accompanied by at least some logic. Once the discussion degrades into “I have more money and my ears are more golden, so what can you know?” any civility quickly goes out of the window…

In your case, if you keep the Crescendo, I, personally, would go for RS-150 (if talking about the Rose kit). Not even so much because it would sound noticeable better than the 250 but a full-size device would look better next to Viola, and you could use balanced connectors. And it would be easy to flip between using Rose’s and Crescendo’s DAC for fun.

If you really want to use an external DAC (which, IMHO, only makes sense if you prefer a less accurate but pleasing to you device; something like a Lampizator) then make sure that it plays nice with whatever streamer you pick. There are enough reports here of people struggling to connect some of the more esoteric devices. I still would use RS-150 as a streamer, you get a very good DAC for less money and can still use only digital outputs, but that’s me; I’d rather spend the price difference on music. Or a dinner with the family (it might almost pay for one :slight_smile: )

#48

Boris, it’s hilarious how you discount the ears and hearing of everyone who purchased a Rose, Aurrender, and Lumin, including the worldwide press and manufactures, but you, and you alone are so certain that there are no sonic differences. Youre willingness to discount the credible findings of tens of thousands of audiophiles and place yourself above them shows what kind of character you have.

You’re lack of self awareness is staggering.

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#49

Indeed, it’s amazing what education and intelligence can do. You should try it one day, when you grow up.

#50

Hi Friends, there are people who pretend they know everything. Why bother? Let them BS.

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#51

A new favorable review of the RS 130 from Absolute Sound

#52

I just replaced my RS150b with the RS130 for about a week.
It does sound better, especially after adding an external clock and connecting my dac via the fiber hub. :grin:

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#53

Same here. My dealer let me test the 150b for 3 weeks. The 130 is a significant improvement and connecting the Fiber hub and adding the Holo May DAC KTE is my “end game”.

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#54

For me the same, 130 and Holo May kte
How did you connect?
I use usb

#55

I tried both I2S and USB. Still have both connected because I sometimes connect to multiple DAC for 5.1/7.1 and for that I use I2S + Coax + SPIF.

For best results:

  • I2S - PLL delays on format changes, sounds great.
  • USB - No PLL delays, and even lower sound floor, better soundstage, +++
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#56

I am using fiber to connect my NAS to the RS130 and RS130 to RSA720. I have a Chord Hugo TT2 connected via a RSA720 usb connection. The sound quality improvement using the RS130 and RSA720 was a nice surprise. Clearly audible… and won’t be going back!

I have not had any issues with the RSA720, but did allow the RS130 to fully break in before connecting the RSA720.

I am powering the RSA720 with a battery power pack.

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#57

When you bring fiber into your listening room does it connect to the RSA720? If not, to what hardware does it connect? Do you use the SFPs supplied with the RSA720?

#58

The fiber from my NAS network connects to the RS130. I use a Finisar FTLF1318P2BCL SFP to connect the RS130 to the home network.

The RSA720 is connected using the HiFi Rose supplied SFP’s.

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