Hi,
I have recently purchased the RS150. I have [eventually] managed to connect to my Synology NAS. I cannot find a way of listing all songs using the Hifi Rose App and subsequently shuffling all tracks.
I am sure this function must be available so any pointers would be much appreciated. I have an extensively large music library - 250000 tracks +.
Many thanks
Steve
Hello,
It seems difficult to put 250,000+ songs in a queue.
We are reviewing whether we can support shuffle play in storage without creating queue.
thank you.
Any progress on this issue?
Regards,
Diego
I’m sorry to tell, not so far yet.
Thank you for your reply, which I do appreciate. It’s a pitty that this fantastic machine is being let down by a such a serious issue. I have no intention to offend, but I do believe that it’s a major drawback and a deal breaker.
I do hope that you manage to solve it.
Any light at the end of the tunnel?
Hello @diego
Up to now, the queue can hold up to 3000 songs.
I asked SoftWare team, they said there are no plans yet.
However, if you play the entire songs you have, 3000 songs will be randomly chosen in the queue.
I’m really sorry. I will continue to suggest to the SW team.
Thank you.
Thank you for your prompt and kind reply. I hope that you understand that this IS a MAJOR issue. It’s like standing in front of a Ferrari, and when you look into the engine bay, you find a 1lt, 3cyl, 60hk engine (???). Disappointed is a mild expression.
I just can’t understand that HiFi Rose takes it so lightly on this issue?
Your site states:
“You can build a home media library.
RS150 can recognize up to 4TB of SSD, 10TB of external HDD, and 400GB of MicroSD.”
There is something fundamentally wrong here. What’s the use of it, if it’s only possible to suffle 3000 songs (???)
I would like to know if this is a hardware or software issue? If it’s a software issue, I still might be tempted to invest in one and hope that the software is solved in the near future.
Hello @diego
Sorry for the inconvenience.
I will respond as soon as I receive the information on the status of improvement.
Thank you
I might be wrong, but, understandably, I do have the impression that Hifi Rose doesn’t take this issue seriously or is unable to fix it. Is there any plan to solve it?
Hiby has just announced their cheapest portable DAP with a track limit of 50.000 tracks. Why is Hifi Rose unable to do better?
Hello @diego
We are also working to solve the problem. But adding songs to the queue more than 3000 seems difficult. Rose currently supports a variety of connectors, so when playing songs beyond that, the phenomenon appears to be out of sync.
Thank you
Thank you for your reply RoseHan, which I do appreciate. I’ve been in contact with Hiby, concerning the maximun number of songs in their “MOBILE” DAPs and they state that there are NO LIMITS!
So, a tiny, $450, mobile DAP, supporting 2 x SD cards = 4TB, can shuffle play ALL it’s content. This means many tenths of thousands of songs. If this is true, I guess that it’s time for Hifi Rose to seek assistance from 3rd party.
I don’t want to offend anyone.
This is the told experience with the Hiby RS2, the size of a cigarette pack.
“Have now updated to fw 1.04 with the 50.000 tracks limit on the database and have inserted 2 sd cards with a total of about 60.000 tracks. This makes library navigation virtually unuseable. Going via the Artist entry, opening an Artist to get the list of albums for that artist takes 5-10 seconds. Going via Genre and opening a genre takes 5-10 minutes before the list of albums are shown and the gui is responsive again. Browsing via folders is fast.”
Same problem
I am also confused how to operate only 8,000+ files on my RS-201.
I’ve been in the IT industry for decades and it’s hard to understand the situation where I’m staying at 3,000 songs due to technical limitations.
My car can play over 8,000 songs in the USB port randomly.
As Mr. Diego said, if ROSE team ask the 3rd party for help, you can improve the way to fetch large scale of files from external storage DB unexpectedly easily.
I think ROSE team constantly trying to solve this problem.
BR
Ryan from South Korea
Hello Rose team,
I’m also sad about that problem. I was confused at how narrow my shuffle was searching, now I understand this limitation (with or without an internal drive, right? my music comes from a NAS today). I’m not a specialist, but I concur to say that this shortcoming is seriouly user unfriendly. Thanks for your understanding.
Besides, any update on your progress so far please?
I remember how my old Sony HAP-S1 was great at shuffling in my whole library (with an internal hard drive). You could even select your shuffling music style or mood. It’s probably the thing I most missed when I replaced it with the Rose. Please implement this function!
Many thanks in advance for your feedback.
Narito from Paris
I agree that this is a serious issue! Also, how could the Olive 4HD manage to shuffle the entire library of some 20000 songs over 12 years ago and now Rose says it’s not possible ???
This is a problem for a lot of people! Also, the 3000 song story is not correct as Rose chooses only songs from the first letters in the alphabet for it.
One more comment : if I play shuffle just after turning my device on (connected to my NAS for music), it looks for 3000 songs in the alphabetical order, ie starting with the same songs with numbers in the title. This is no shuffle… It looks that if I wait longer, the 3000 songs are picked more randomly, I’m not sure about that. In any case this is not user friendly. A limitation to 3000 songs in not really an issue for me, as long as the 3000 songs is not the same batch all the time.
I hope you guys can see my comments as the thoughts of one consumer.
There’s a famous marketing example of Nintendo dominating the gaming market that had nothing to do with performance, while Sony’s PS2 and Microsoft’s XBox spent two years fighting over hardware performance and their resolution.
While some people buy Rose for its performance, others, like me, enjoy the convenience of streaming, the videos, the cover art, and the ability to randomly listen to over 3,000 of their favorite songs.
As one of Rose buyer said, the Rose so far is an engineering taste, and I totally agree.
While the Korean community is happy with the hardware performance, the user interface leaves a lot to be desired.
Not having the buttons or information you expect when you expect it goes against the usability learned from other devices.
Hopefully, the Rose will take what the PS2, XBox, and Nintendo have and run with it.
I think it’s time to spend more time on a User Experience that is intuitive and accessible to users.
I’m grateful for the Rose OS 4.5 update.
We don’t expect anything more from a four-knob hi-fi device.
But Rose can continue to build loyalty with OS upgrades that improve usability, just like the iPhone and Galaxy.
Which is why I’m writing this again.
I’d like to add my name to the group of people requesting the ability to shuffle an entire library from a NAS. As a former computer programmer, I don’t understand why it couldn’t happen without caching. I was using a $20 Roku box with Plex until now and was able to achieve this. I didn’t spend $5K to lose that ability…
Now, I noticed that the current random play selects songs in the same musical genre as the first song you play. For instance, if my first choice was a French song, then all 3000 songs in the queue are French. If it was classical then they’re all classical, jazz begets jazz, punk begets punk, etc. Maybe having the option to opt in or out of that would already be a good first step so we could really start mixing it up.