Tips, explanations, and recommendations on what is important for high-quality audio playback—and what isn’t

Everything written here is physically verifiable, clearly measurable,
and has been confirmed multiple times through blind tests.

https://www.hifiaktiv.at/startseite/

Here is an excerpt from the website: once again, the question of cable sound.

It has become common practice to use PC-based source devices. From a technical and sonic standpoint, there is nothing to object to here. But has anyone ever stopped to consider exactly which “cables”—specifically the microchips and mass storage components—all this data actually travels through? Even Hi-Fi magazines have yet to utter a word on this subject, despite having published numerous reviews regarding the sonic differences between digital cables. More recently, even network cables are being judged and categorized based on their (alleged!) sonic characteristics. Just a sudden thought: are there also sonic differences between the various modems, routers, and splitters out there?

The same applies to “premium” power cables, which sometimes cost as much as high-quality amplifiers. How is it possible to manipulate countless people into believing in such things—and spending a fortune on them? It truly leaves one speechless.

High-end Hi-Fi headphones are (rightly) credited with an extremely precise level of audio reproduction—a standard that loudspeakers can rarely match. Yet, the connecting cables supplied with these headphones are anything but high-quality. In most cases, they are three meters long and consist of nothing more than very thin, standard stranded wire. How do the “cable and connector gurus” explain that?

Time and again, Hi-Fi magazines emphasize the importance of removing the metal jumper strips connecting the bi-wiring terminals on loudspeakers and replacing them with actual speaker cables. This is supposedly meant to result in a significant improvement in sound quality. How absurd! Both within the electronic components (upstream) and within the crossovers (downstream), there are hundreds of such metal connections—and rather puny ones at that—taking the form of traces on the printed circuit boards. Surely, then, swapping out those two extremely thick—and at most 5 cm long—metal jumper strips for a piece of stranded wire cannot possibly yield any improvement! According to their claims, it supposedly even makes a difference whether the speaker cable is connected to the top or the bottom terminals—even though the poles involved are exactly the same. Another recommendation suggests: “Connect the positive pole at the top and the negative pole at the bottom—or vice versa—but under no circumstances ever side-by-side.” All of this is as utterly nonsensical as anything could possibly be. But then again, that is just typical Hi-Fi!

Anyone convinced that there are audible differences between the countless cables currently on the market—be they importers, reviewers, retailers, or end consumers—should try conducting a blind comparison. The outcome of such a test is already 100% predictable. Yet hardly anyone will be persuaded to do so—least of all those who stand to profit from this great Hi-Fi lie.

To conclude this topic, here is a piece of sound advice: instead of investing in expensive cables, invest in room acoustics—for you can never have too much of a good thing in that regard. A single square meter of acoustic absorption material, positioned correctly within your listening room, will undoubtedly yield far greater sonic improvements than simply swapping out standard cables for the most expensive ones money can buy.


Time and again, Hi-Fi magazines emphasize the importance of removing the metal jumper strips connecting the bi-wiring terminals on loudspeakers and replacing them with actual speaker cables.

I did the same thing and had my speaker cables custom-made in this way. I hear no difference compared to when the original metal jumpers are installed. Furthermore, the cable features a 5mm² cross-section at each terminal connection, while on the amplifier side, it expands to 10mm² per pole (both positive and negative).

Additionally, this constitutes merely “pseudo bi-wiring,” as the amplifier simply features standard dual speaker outputs.

In short, my conclusion is this: whether you remove the metal jumpers and replace them with cable jumpers—or, as I did, simply purchase a cable designed this way from the start—it made absolutely no difference in sound quality for me. I bought the cable solely for aesthetic reasons.

In your rant you said:

High-end Hi-Fi headphones are (rightly) credited with an extremely precise level of audio reproduction—a standard that loudspeakers can rarely match. Yet, the connecting cables supplied with these headphones are anything but high-quality. In most cases, they are three meters long and consist of nothing more than very thin, standard stranded wire. How do the “cable and connector gurus” explain that?

What do you mean “anything but high-quality?”
Do you even think before you post?
Do silver headphone cables sound the same as copper?
And that all copper sounds the same? (Quality of the copper?)
That they use a single strand of wire? Insulation? Connections?

Dude, go talk to people who are in the know… about what goes into headphones, the drivers, configuration… they will blow your mind.

You’re showing yourself to be in the ‘measurements’ only crowd and when it comes to headphones there are a lot of measurements that show that cables do matter.

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@Smegel and @Orbiter (who actually liked it)—regarding what Mikey posted:

Here it is again, just to make it easy to understand!

That was merely an excerpt from the page I posted. I’m not going to explain a damn thing.

And if you guys are too lazy to actually read through the page, then I can’t help you.

Roasted pigeons don’t just fly right into your mouth, you know. You actually have to get off your ass and move a little if you’re interested in finding out what’s written on that website. You actually have to read—you won’t just be spoon-fed content like you are with YouTube videos!

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If you’re going to cut n paste junk… put quotes around it otherwise I’m going to believe that you’re the one saying it.

Seems you don’t catch a rhetorical question.

Boris like I’ve said… stay quiet when adults are talking,

Believing isn’t knowing, Mikey. There we go again—you’re just too gullible. :rofl:

I seriously question your common sense!

But just as Boris so aptly posted, you probably really do just have a “mouse brain.” Or else you’re leaving something out—something that has already done massive damage to your body, specifically your “brain.”

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Spotify is actually made up of two words.

  1. Spot (Maybe Mickey Mouse will eventually figure out what Spotify’s system requirements are)

  2. Identify (Will Mickey then also store the correct identification of Spotify’s system requirements in whatever’s going on in his head?)

:rofl:

@BorisM , @Bonte

Two peas in a pod.
Both foolish.

Bonte trying to stir the pot when caught says "Hey, I just ‘cut n pasted’ someone else’s argument. Its not me.

To break this all down…
Do cables matter? Yes, but to a point.
There are other things in the chain that matter more.

Can you hear a difference? Maybe. It depends on you as well as your system and your room.
In many cases the differences are subtle. And you could miss them if you have an inadequate system. (No Boris we’re not talking about you physically or mentally, but your stereo system.)

In terms of electrical cables. Less of a difference in sound, yet you’re going to want a larger gauge of cable when dealing w products that draw more current.

@Bonte I asked if you believed that you could create a wire from a single crystal of copper. You didn’t respond. Also the purity of the metals used in the cables also matters. Of course Boris will go out and get 7N pure copper from someone on AliExpress because 7N is better than 6N even though there isn’t any thing as 7N copper and you can’t guarantee the quality of the copper being shipped. (de8uer who manufactures custom components for computers and has a YT channel can attest to that.)

So Bonte, would I spend $2,000 USD on a set of cables? No.
I would however spend $250 USD to make my own now that I ran out of my bulk audioquest wire.

And just to be clear because you asked it… different cables do measure differently. The question is if you can hear that difference.

And @Boris… There are different specs for USB-C cables. The USB-C connection is used for USB-C , USB-C 4 and Thunderbolt 5 cables. The differences are in the quality of the connectors. gauge of wires, and shielding. And that will impact sound quality depending on device and use case. Also the source.
Many claim reclockers help. One potential reason is the noise on the source (e.g. PC’s connection)

And there you have it.

Will Boris add to the conversation? Or attempt to insult me and try to get this thread shut down?
Boris Badinoff don’t be a Troll.

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The point, generally, being that if you do not have cables, signal isn’t flowing and you get no sound.

Coming from someone with a setup that can barely resolve Diana Krall’s wailing it is funny. And, as surprising as it might be to good little consumer sheeple listening to youtube shills like you, “resolving system” is meaningless bullcrap that sleazy vendors and feeble-minded audiophiles who bought in resort to when it turn out that nobody can hear the mythical “veil-lifting improvements.”

Because that “Boris” that you speak of had studied hard sciences, he does not waste time and money chasing things that either do not exist (cougl, Cat 7, cough) or, even if they did, would not make any practical difference.

Nice projection though.

Uh huh. If you have no idea how USB Audio works, then sure.

That you have no clue about electricity in general, digital audio in particular, and how USB works specifically is not an “insult.” Nobody would have even cared had you not taken your teachers calling you “special” a bit too close to heart and stopped trying to impart your wisdom on the world.

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And there you have it.
Boris being Boris adding no value to a conversation. Playing the role of a troll.

What does any of this have to do with HiFi Rose?

All of you - go find some forum that cares about this. I assume you’ve been thrown out of most every other audio forum so you’re here now.

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:rofl::clap:t2:

That’s not very nice!

I’ve already said that I don’t just take things on faith—I only believe them if they are physically confirmed.

Watch the whole video, especially from (1:02:55) onwards, and look at the PDF file by Günther Nubert. If the name Nubert Speakers rings a bell, then give it a read.

I cannot confirm that.
I merely sent a link containing tips, explanations, and recommendations regarding what is important for high-quality audio playback—and what isn’t.

Only three people actually clicked on that page—and one of those clicks was mine. So nobody really wants to know what snake oil actually is, right?

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Not surprising that people haven’t clicked on it. It’s clearly not about HiFi Rose (who are paying for your ability to use this forum).

If you want to peddle your audio biases, feel free to start your own forum.

Then learn to respect others even if you don’t agree with them.

Then take a good look at yourself!

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  1. How much are you paying to participate in this forum?

  2. Then I don’t want to see any more threads that have nothing to do with rose devices!