Upgrading to RS151

ROSE Products RS151
#61

My comments about the RS150B are similar. I bought it in June 2022 because I became a fan of Tidal’s MQA encoding. When they started switching from MQA (which uses small files) to FLAC files, especially 24-bit, large files of 3 to 5 Mbps appeared.
That’s when I started having problems with streaming stutters.

You can fix this: 1. Go to the RS130’s “audio settings” and enable the “Gapless” option. The Rose will buffer the data in its cache, which should help. 2. Connect the RS130 to a fast network with a cable and use a switch with buffering.

I’m not selling my RS150B because it has the best, most excellent functionality in the world. I can watch live concerts and artist performances while listening to another system in fully balanced mode on the A-S2100. It also plays music well. Let me know if I helped you solve the gaps.
best regards, Tadeusz Wolf

#62

“I can’t imagine buying a device based on what I hear at a concert like this. It’s a disgrace.”

It’s not a disgrace, but simply a lack of money. For over 15 years, after an initial assessment at a show or a full review by recognized specialists in the specialized press, I’ve always bought brand new equipment with a 7-day return option for my own hours of listening tests. And I always have exactly the same listening parameters.
And so far, I’ve only returned it once.

If you’re writing publicly, don’t insult others, just use your thinking skills.

#63

Wilk

Do you read a bit about how some people treat each other? That’s insulting…
And I haven’t offended you in any way. I simply can’t imagine making a purchase based on what I hear at audio shows, and certainly not based on what well-known and famous reviewers who are paid to write in newspapers or online write.
The first such example in my country was a review of the Luxman 509 amplifier. According to one test, the device sounded almost as if you were listening to Accuphase, not the Luxman, which has a very specific sound. I listened to it three times on three different speakers in audio salons, and what the reviewer, a well-known reviewer, heard, was probably heard from his wallet, because this device definitely doesn’t sound like he described in the test. But another test revealed more truth about this device. That’s what many tests are worth. Not all of them, of course, but most are just that, tests that have little to do with reality. But most people buy them because they don’t listen in listening rooms or stores, and then at home.

And most importantly, it’s not a matter of money; it’s a matter of willingness to make the best choice. Going and listening, even in a store, doesn’t cost much; you just have to be willing to do it.

I’ll also mention that writing about any level of difference between the Rose and Ever Solo is a mistake and misleading. I listened to the 10 in three different good audio systems at home, and in all of them, it sounded the worst of the four streaming players compared, and the 10a from Ever Solo performed the worst.

Significant differences in sound are found in the devices I mentioned earlier, but we’re talking about completely different prices. But there is a difference, and it’s also visible in the tests when someone looks at these types of reviews.
It probably works better with ES Ronn and the Connect service. We didn’t need it, so we didn’t test it. We only tested Spotify Connect, and it worked without a problem for all of us. I also use Spotify sometimes, but very rarely.

And when I had a Rose RS 250 before, I sometimes used Dezzer Connect, and it was also trouble-free. Personally, I use Tidal and Qobuz through the Rose app and have no problems, so I use it and I’m happy that I have access to music I don’t have on CDs.

#64

“And most importantly, it’s not about money, but about the willingness to make the best choice. Going and listening, even in a store, doesn’t cost much; you just have to want it.”
This is another simplification of yours, of which you publish many.

I also went to such listening sessions with sellers, but they were never able to create the conditions that everyone has individually at home. That’s why I chose my own path, i.e., purchasing selected devices with the option of returning them after 7 days. And I still believe that introducing a comparison with devices costing more than 10,000 EUR into the discussion is an analysis of the superiority of moon dust on the functioning of “diamond cables.”

#65

And let me guess, how many of those comparisons were in any way level-matched and blind? None?

Uh huh. Try doing a correct test one day. You will be very surprised.

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#66

Hi Boris, I spent several hours listening to my DMP-A10, setting it up, until I discovered that it had a poorly configured factory equalizer, and that it was different on each channel. I also noticed that the factory filter selected in the DAC was acoustically inappropriate. When I adjusted the appropriate filter, it was pure poetry. This begs the question: did the people writing about its disastrous reviews even know about the DMP-A10’s configuration options? I seriously suspect they couldn’t grasp it.

Tadeusz Wolf

#67

Of course not. They wouldn’t even know to level-match them, if they are comparing against some other device.

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#68

Wilk

I’ll end this discussion here, because now I’d have to break my wallet, and I don’t like that. Perhaps I’ll just say that just because we can’t afford something (and I mean all of us) doesn’t mean we can deny it, especially if we haven’t listened to it, or in the case of cars, haven’t driven it, etc. There are countless examples. Everyone should do it their own way.

#69

Hello,

Has anyone by any chance compared the Eversolo DMPA10 with the HiFi Rose RS151?

Thanks,

Fred

#70

Cześć ,
Zrób sobie test porównawczy . Przetestuj Rose RS150B bezpośrednio z RS151 . Aplikacja RoseHiFi dalej nie ma Tidal connect.
Pozdrowienia

#71

Hello,

I would like some comparisons for sound quality between DMPA10 and HIFI Rose RS151.

Thanks,
Fred

#72

Hello, please conduct a comparison test. Test the Rose RS150B directly against the RS151. The RoseHiFi app still doesn’t support Tidal Connect.

Best regards

#73

fredg101

I wrote about this when two of my friends and I compared the Rose and Ever Solo. In all three good systems, the Ever Solo sounded the weakest, not only compared to the Rose, but also to the Lumin P1 mini, for example. We didn’t use the Connect because we all believe it’s no better than the Rose and certainly doesn’t result in better sound.
We tested the Connect in the Lumin P1 mini, for example, and didn’t notice any difference in sound, either on the Connect or in the system app in the Lumin.
In my humble opinion, this isn’t something that would make us choose a device over sound quality.
I play guitar by ear, one of my testers has a music degree, and we didn’t hear any difference with the Connect, but for all of us, the Ever Solo sounded the weakest.
If the price difference isn’t a factor, give these devices a listen without worrying about their price. You’ll spend less money by choosing the ES. Listen for the pleasure of listening, not for the sheer amount of money you’ll save by choosing a cheaper product.

We’ve listened to more expensive devices like the Lumin P1, the Aurender A15, and not to mention the very expensive A20. These are better players, but they cost more. For all of us, where streaming is a secondary source, we felt they were too expensive for the price difference. But they are better, and we were able to say that. But remember, not everyone is like that, and people often judge a product based on the smaller price spent. Unfortunately, we also liked the Lumin P1 mini, which is a bit more expensive than the Rose RS 151, but we both bought the Rose. This Lumin model is really nice and worth a listen. I spent a long time deciding which one to choose.
And consider the resale value of the Ever Solo, and for example, the Rose, or not to mention the Lumin. It’s undeniable what you’ll lose most if you sell such a device after, say, four years.

#74

Cougar2025

The Lumin P1 mini and Lumin P1 claim to have Dolby Atmos passthrough, which I find appealing. But for $6K and $12K respectively, I will definitely do my research and confirm this before I consider. I also need to test gapless playback of Dolby Atmos albums through my Trinnov processor which has its own quirkiness with Dolby Atmos recordings. Did you and your friends test this functionality?

#75

Jedenaście

We didn’t test this because my friend and I have separate home theater systems where I watch movies, concerts, etc., while my third friend isn’t interested. However, out of curiosity, I wanted to route the sound from the YouTube app to the TV. To get the sound to travel from the TV to the Lumin and then to the amplifier and speakers, I had to connect it with an optical cable, because the Lumin wouldn’t transmit sound via USB.

#76

Thanks Cougar. I have put together a combination theater / listening room with the help of professionals. I really am quite pleased with its ability both for movies and music. Dolby Atmos for movies is amazing, and when done well for music it is also amazing. I know that there are two channel purists out there, but I am not one of them, and I love my two channel setup. But fire up Pink Floyd’s Dark Side Of The Moon or Animals on Atmos Blu-ray and you are just in there. Crazy good Atmos mixes. Other Atmos recordings are not nearly as good but are still worth the listen.

I want to stream Dolby Atmos music rather than purchasing the Blu-rays but I am limited to Apple Music and the AppleTV through my system. Not that I am complaining because it is pretty darn good, but I would have thought by now there would be other streaming devices that could perform the same function. The quest continues.

#77

Below is another short review from a forum user from my country who tested the RS 151 Lumin and the Ever Solo. And with electronics we didn’t test them with, so the Ever Solo didn’t work well with either of these amplifiers.

"A friend of mine has a specific setup, the Pass int 250 ProAc d48. It’s pure poetry how well it plays, the separation, musicality, weight, everything is perfect, and we felt the biggest difference between the 150b and the 151. The 151 definitely has a better defined bass, more focused, faster and with a stronger impact, it’s more detailed, and it penetrates the recording more. The 150, on the other hand, has a more saturated sound; the bass is different, less differentiated, but it seems more analog, there’s definitely less going on, and it’s smoother. I can even say it’s denser. On my Copland CTA 405 and Elac Vela 407, the differences are smaller, but I don’t have XLR to RCA, the sound seems warmer, even on the 151, but it’s also possible that the cables are different. The real difference in soundstage and quality is clearly noticeable only with my friend, and he definitely has better listening conditions.

Interestingly, I’ll add that he also had Eversolo 10, and it sounded much more dry and luminous. Luminous very nice but a bit too warm for the slingshot and pass.