Upgrading to RS151

ROSE Products RS151
#64

“And most importantly, it’s not about money, but about the willingness to make the best choice. Going and listening, even in a store, doesn’t cost much; you just have to want it.”
This is another simplification of yours, of which you publish many.

I also went to such listening sessions with sellers, but they were never able to create the conditions that everyone has individually at home. That’s why I chose my own path, i.e., purchasing selected devices with the option of returning them after 7 days. And I still believe that introducing a comparison with devices costing more than 10,000 EUR into the discussion is an analysis of the superiority of moon dust on the functioning of “diamond cables.”

#65

And let me guess, how many of those comparisons were in any way level-matched and blind? None?

Uh huh. Try doing a correct test one day. You will be very surprised.

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#66

Hi Boris, I spent several hours listening to my DMP-A10, setting it up, until I discovered that it had a poorly configured factory equalizer, and that it was different on each channel. I also noticed that the factory filter selected in the DAC was acoustically inappropriate. When I adjusted the appropriate filter, it was pure poetry. This begs the question: did the people writing about its disastrous reviews even know about the DMP-A10’s configuration options? I seriously suspect they couldn’t grasp it.

Tadeusz Wolf

#67

Of course not. They wouldn’t even know to level-match them, if they are comparing against some other device.

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#68

Wilk

I’ll end this discussion here, because now I’d have to break my wallet, and I don’t like that. Perhaps I’ll just say that just because we can’t afford something (and I mean all of us) doesn’t mean we can deny it, especially if we haven’t listened to it, or in the case of cars, haven’t driven it, etc. There are countless examples. Everyone should do it their own way.

#69

Hello,

Has anyone by any chance compared the Eversolo DMPA10 with the HiFi Rose RS151?

Thanks,

Fred

#70

Cześć ,
Zrób sobie test porównawczy . Przetestuj Rose RS150B bezpośrednio z RS151 . Aplikacja RoseHiFi dalej nie ma Tidal connect.
Pozdrowienia

#71

Hello,

I would like some comparisons for sound quality between DMPA10 and HIFI Rose RS151.

Thanks,
Fred

#72

Hello, please conduct a comparison test. Test the Rose RS150B directly against the RS151. The RoseHiFi app still doesn’t support Tidal Connect.

Best regards

#73

fredg101

I wrote about this when two of my friends and I compared the Rose and Ever Solo. In all three good systems, the Ever Solo sounded the weakest, not only compared to the Rose, but also to the Lumin P1 mini, for example. We didn’t use the Connect because we all believe it’s no better than the Rose and certainly doesn’t result in better sound.
We tested the Connect in the Lumin P1 mini, for example, and didn’t notice any difference in sound, either on the Connect or in the system app in the Lumin.
In my humble opinion, this isn’t something that would make us choose a device over sound quality.
I play guitar by ear, one of my testers has a music degree, and we didn’t hear any difference with the Connect, but for all of us, the Ever Solo sounded the weakest.
If the price difference isn’t a factor, give these devices a listen without worrying about their price. You’ll spend less money by choosing the ES. Listen for the pleasure of listening, not for the sheer amount of money you’ll save by choosing a cheaper product.

We’ve listened to more expensive devices like the Lumin P1, the Aurender A15, and not to mention the very expensive A20. These are better players, but they cost more. For all of us, where streaming is a secondary source, we felt they were too expensive for the price difference. But they are better, and we were able to say that. But remember, not everyone is like that, and people often judge a product based on the smaller price spent. Unfortunately, we also liked the Lumin P1 mini, which is a bit more expensive than the Rose RS 151, but we both bought the Rose. This Lumin model is really nice and worth a listen. I spent a long time deciding which one to choose.
And consider the resale value of the Ever Solo, and for example, the Rose, or not to mention the Lumin. It’s undeniable what you’ll lose most if you sell such a device after, say, four years.

#74

Cougar2025

The Lumin P1 mini and Lumin P1 claim to have Dolby Atmos passthrough, which I find appealing. But for $6K and $12K respectively, I will definitely do my research and confirm this before I consider. I also need to test gapless playback of Dolby Atmos albums through my Trinnov processor which has its own quirkiness with Dolby Atmos recordings. Did you and your friends test this functionality?

#75

Jedenaście

We didn’t test this because my friend and I have separate home theater systems where I watch movies, concerts, etc., while my third friend isn’t interested. However, out of curiosity, I wanted to route the sound from the YouTube app to the TV. To get the sound to travel from the TV to the Lumin and then to the amplifier and speakers, I had to connect it with an optical cable, because the Lumin wouldn’t transmit sound via USB.

#76

Thanks Cougar. I have put together a combination theater / listening room with the help of professionals. I really am quite pleased with its ability both for movies and music. Dolby Atmos for movies is amazing, and when done well for music it is also amazing. I know that there are two channel purists out there, but I am not one of them, and I love my two channel setup. But fire up Pink Floyd’s Dark Side Of The Moon or Animals on Atmos Blu-ray and you are just in there. Crazy good Atmos mixes. Other Atmos recordings are not nearly as good but are still worth the listen.

I want to stream Dolby Atmos music rather than purchasing the Blu-rays but I am limited to Apple Music and the AppleTV through my system. Not that I am complaining because it is pretty darn good, but I would have thought by now there would be other streaming devices that could perform the same function. The quest continues.

#77

Below is another short review from a forum user from my country who tested the RS 151 Lumin and the Ever Solo. And with electronics we didn’t test them with, so the Ever Solo didn’t work well with either of these amplifiers.

"A friend of mine has a specific setup, the Pass int 250 ProAc d48. It’s pure poetry how well it plays, the separation, musicality, weight, everything is perfect, and we felt the biggest difference between the 150b and the 151. The 151 definitely has a better defined bass, more focused, faster and with a stronger impact, it’s more detailed, and it penetrates the recording more. The 150, on the other hand, has a more saturated sound; the bass is different, less differentiated, but it seems more analog, there’s definitely less going on, and it’s smoother. I can even say it’s denser. On my Copland CTA 405 and Elac Vela 407, the differences are smaller, but I don’t have XLR to RCA, the sound seems warmer, even on the 151, but it’s also possible that the cables are different. The real difference in soundstage and quality is clearly noticeable only with my friend, and he definitely has better listening conditions.

Interestingly, I’ll add that he also had Eversolo 10, and it sounded much more dry and luminous. Luminous very nice but a bit too warm for the slingshot and pass.

#78

For the EverSolo DMP-A10 to sound outstanding, you need to spend a few hours setting the appropriate parameters, filters, EQ, DSP /unfortunately, the user manual is poor and does not provide much advice/ and then Rose is defeated.

#79

Hello,

I just received my Rose RS151 and it’s been plugged in for 24 hours. I previously had an RS 150B.

I’ll get back to you once the break-in period is over.

Thanks,

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#80

Wilk

In your opinion it is worth mentioning, because according to many others who tested Ever Solo it performed poorly in comparison to other streams.

#81

Wolf,

Gosh, I guess the HiFi Rose user manual is a lot better.

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#82

I suspect they haven’t figured out how to adjust many of the parameters.
My assessment is that the DMP-A10 plays at 70% immediately after powering up. Only when it’s tuned (like tuning pianos) does the DMP-A10 reveal its beautiful face, and then the magic happens.

Like in Andersen’s Fairy Tales.

#83

Wilk

Any device of this type requires some experimentation and setup. In our case, the Ever Solo (in three systems, with three people) lasted about 9-10 hours, while the Rose and Lumin played for about the same amount of time. We tested various settings in all of them, and as you can see from the forums, the Ever Solo performed the worst.

It’s worth considering what would happen if the Chinese didn’t subsidize their devices and this player cost around $5,000, which is how much it would cost if it were manufactured in, say, Taiwan or Korea. Its sales would be practically negligible, since it’s currently selling poorly in my country at a lower price.