Dude, I’m becoming more and more convinced that you’re an idiot who looks down on money and swallows the sour smegma of your Hi-Fi Rose boyfriends; I’m not going to respond to any of your comments. The philosopher Diego Armando Maradona said: “Idiots and stupid people are like ants, they’re everywhere.”
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Sorry,
I have to agree w Cougar here.
I’m not doubting you and your experiences… but that I have the RS520… I bought lightly used… but have no issues outside some of the quirks…
For the price… its a good value. Are there other options? Sure. More expensive options.
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BS. Unless you want something noisy and distorting (maybe a tube DAC or something) a $500 DAC is more than enough to do “as good as it possibly can be” audio. People thinking that paying more money for audio gives you better sound (with a few exceptions – of course Magicos are better than a $100 cardboard speakers) make for perfect consumers, but really have no clue.
Boris,
The adults are talking.
No, you don’t need a tube dac. Those that like the tube sound say its due to the 2nd order distortions. So that’s their thing.
There are better DAC modules out there. Some say Ladder Dacs, others FPGA or a combo. Some prefer AKM over ESS or CS or Rohm.
But for your tin ears… they all sound the same.
@Cougar2025 is correct that if you come from a background of playing a musical instrument tend to have better trained ears when hearing a difference. Its akin to someone who drinks a lot of wine being able to tell apart the differences in wines, others bourbons, whiskeys and what not.
Sucks to be someone who has a tin ear.
Where? Would you be the adult here? 
Or “look at me, I’m rich, rich, I tell you!” kitty?
That’s the only kind that does, by design, have a different sound.
Audiophiles says the darndest things. Good ladder DACs sound exactly, or almost as good as a cheap sigma-delta ones, they are just simple enough in concept for audiophiles to sort of comprehend. And if you spend a lot of money on them, they can be even accurate enough. Usually they aren’t though. FPGAs, like Chord’s, do exactly the same thing as ESS or AKM, just with more engineering involved.
It’s not in the ear, because they do. Its in the tin brain of some people where differences appear.
you are likely deaf in one ear at least. Most violinists are. Try something better, that can be actually confirmed with facts. Not that you could.
Boris,
You come here, insult everyone, and show your ignorance.
To you there is no difference between GaN and other class D. To you they are all the same.
To you a cheap Cap has the same impact as a more expensive cap in speakers.
To you, getting a cheap chi-fi amp does the same as Rose.
So go and sell any Rose equipment you have and buy the cheaper chi-fi you can get off ali-express.
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Absolutely hilarious…
Naw, frankly its getting old.
The thing w Boris… he doesn’t pay attention to details and is pretty lame.
When he talks about why he chose Rose… it was everything except the sound.
Think about that. You’re buying audio equipment and you’re not concerned about the sound… to him all Class D sound the same. (They don’t. )
Where the RS520 comes in… you havve 250wpc either in 8 or 4 ohms. (Stereophile tested 4ohm levels to be above 300wpc ) And the amplification is clean and efficient.
Then secondary are the features.
And also at the end… the price.
But not w Boris.
Oh Mike, don’t take it so seriously.
As I said, @BorisM, his comparisons always make me chuckle when I read them, sorry.
Yeah, this audiophile nonsense has been debunked pretty much when Marconi started making radios.
Which cetails? That you believe in lossless BT, REL making subwoofers, and the tooth fairy?
Of course not. There is nothing special about Rose sound, it’s (well, apart from RD-160 which is competing at AliExpress level) as fine as anything using ESS chips, off the shelf parts, and a reference design.
Just because the nice salesman convinced you that your iFooFoo sends lossless BT sudio to a REL “subwoofer” fed by another customer’s reject 520 does not mean that it makes any kind of special sound. It just means that you are a gullible consumer with no clue, and next time he will sell you some used quantum dots, too.
And no, not all Class D amps sound the same. A $5 job from AliExpress, or that 1000WpC amp from J.C. Whitney that you have in your Civic with huge exhaust don’t sound the same as something competently made (by the way, it’s not 1000 Watts either). Some particularly incompetent companies (like Hegel, or anything Borressen touched) manage to screw Class D fine, but Rose didn’t invest enough in misdesigning their amplification stages, they saved the effort on crippling sub outputs and coming up with the ugliest design possible.
Clear sign of a rather borked design that won’t play nice with many speakers.
It is. Just like it is in any number of better designed amps at less than half the price.
For commodity products like streamers with generic amplification, features are THE number one criteria. Get back to us when you can tell a 520 from a NAD C 389. A 399 with dual subs would sound noticeably better though.
Or anyone else with a brain and some education in physics.
I don’t take Boris seriously, other than he’s a serious bore.
He doesn’t understand second order distortions.
Nor does he understand analog signal processing and how its differs from digital signal processing.
He also doesn’t understand how standards committees work and how you can get something released even though the spec hasn’t been finalized.
And I seriously have doubts if he’s ever picked up a soldering iron and did any DIY electronic work…
You keep saying words that you do not understand (which is understandable, American education is a joke). But it gets pretty old when you keep repeating whatever BS the salesman told you in order to move someone’s sloppy seconds. You wouldn’t have pointy haird, would you?
So Boris are you an EE? Software Engineer?
Ever work with or talk to any standards committee?
Actually took a circuit class? (Analog, or Digital)
Somehow I doubt it.
You know what pissed Amir off the most?
I asked him to explain how his ‘tests’ dealt w sound stage, separation, etc … all the things that audiophiles describe about their listening experiences. He couldn’t answer that.
Nor can you.
So Boris… go back to playing w your XBox while your mommy makes you a hot pocket.
Of course you do. Because you are a typical PHB and have absolutely no idea what any of those fancy words you keep using actually mean.
And yesm, IU am., Learned more physics in high school than you had ever seen in your basket-weaving class.
Having to repeat the same thing to every idiot that comes in thinking that they know something no scientist does?
Of course he could not. Neither can anyone else, because “audiophiles describe” meaningless drivel about “soundstage” and “darker blacks” and “lifted veils” and “wife heard from the kitchen” after they had replaced their cheap fuses with $600 ones.
He could not. I can’t. And neither can you. It’s non-falsifiable nonsense that has no basis in any objective reality.
Is that your dream life? Maybe one day your family will be able to get you that Xbox instead of the second-hand NES you are dropping pieces of an already-eaten hot pocket on right now…
Last week, HiFi Rose mentioned that this week they will finally release the firmware updates for the RS151. Can you give a schedule?
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That I want also to ask.
And please: Stop this kindergarten discussion in nearly every thread, which makes this forum more or less senseless.
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Hello,
I received the new update. Is it possible to get the patch notes for the new RS151 version 5.9.08 update?
Thanks,
Fred