yes it’s hard to set it, but after many tries (do you’ve also used here Roon Remote on a PC for setting it?) it was possible for me.
The real problem (for me) is then: The RS451 goes into a standby, but waking up fully isn’t possible. Music plays, but display doesn’t comes up and sometimes you can’t connect the device through the app.
This is the same behaviour, which we had with the RS250 and RS150 using the firmware 5.9.07 and was solved with the 5.9.09.
@burki
Thank you for your confirmation.
The changes reflected in the RS250 and RS150 have been incorporated into the RS451, which will be released next week. Please check back next week. Thank you.
And when’s the RS 151 update? It’s been a few days and still nothing. On the other hand, it’s better to refine it later than break something, but at least let us know when we can expect it?
Please stop spreading lies about the latest RS151 update and the audio. The audio quality is not the same as in the previous version, and it’s not due to filter selection issues. WE ARE NOT DEAF!
I could make the same request to you, because I know several people who have RS 151s with the latest software and don’t notice any degradation in sound. They have very good systems, so if the sound were to deteriorate, they’d hear it.
In my country, there aren’t any negative posts on audio forums about someone’s sound getting worse after the update, only a few here saying it’s worse.
I’ll repeat it again: three of us bought RS 151s at the same time, and two have the latest software, and I’m still on the original one. My friends also don’t notice any degradation in sound. One of them, I should mention, graduated from a music school and plays two instruments professionally, including the violin. These are the musicians with the best hearing; that’s the reputation of these musicians in the music world.
So they are not deaf either, just like you, the difference is that in some cases they are musicians, or people who play musical instruments by ear, like me, I play the guitar.strong textstrong text****
You’re so lucky, you must be one of the chosen ones! Enjoy the RS151s with your friends; they deliver the best audio in the world, even after that awful update they released.
I’m not a lucky winner in my country. No one is writing about this problem on any forum, and I’m sure some of this equipment has already been sold.
However, I never said it had the best sound. In fact, I wrote that there are plenty of streamers, only more expensive ones, but they sound better than the Rose, and I have no problem with that. Some people here think they bought a $5,000 streamer and are convinced it should be a wonder of the world. It isn’t and never will be. If you want a wonder, you need to buy a proper player, which will be more expensive, and there’s a chance it will have fewer problems. They’re typical streamers used solely for music, not a device for many things, as the manufacturer, Rose, intends. Unfortunately, this is why it has problems, because they do exist. Hopefully, in time, people will have fewer problems because the manufacturer will start to better manage device updates. In my opinion, there shouldn’t be many features these players have, as it causes additional problems. Who needs clocks, several types of internet radio, YouTube, CD burning capabilities, and a few other gadgets that also need to be supported? The Lumin is practically bare, with a tiny display, yet it’s a popular choice because it doesn’t cause any problems and offers excellent music quality. I was considering buying the Lumin P1 mini, which I could have bought for almost the same price (even though the Lumin is more expensive) as the Rose, because there are better discounts on the Lumin in my country. I chose the Rose for Rs 151 and hope I won’t regret it. So far, everything is fine, although today I briefly lost connection between my tablet and the device, but I reconnected after a short time.
Dude, I’m becoming more and more convinced that you’re an idiot who looks down on money and swallows the sour smegma of your Hi-Fi Rose boyfriends; I’m not going to respond to any of your comments. The philosopher Diego Armando Maradona said: “Idiots and stupid people are like ants, they’re everywhere.”
Cougar2025,
You must be a car salesman…
I concur with JMBARG…
When I first purchased the Rose and Plugged it in it rivaled with Units at a much higher price point
I own several units from AkM DACs to ModRite ESS 9028 pro and several R2R DACs
The Purpose for me was Down size… And minimal devices.
For the first 3 months Rose was in a class all of its own.
It nearly met most of my interest…It was an interesting investment. Ease of functionality and adaptive connectivity.
Depth and spacial image along with tight tonal control,and timber was near perfect…Very pleased with the purchase!
Until the first update . That’s when things went South…
So at present the unit is in Korea for evaluation.
The repairs to my Magico M5 speakers far exceed the cost of the Rose… Its sad to read comments like yours that show you clearly don’t get it …Just so you know there are literally hundreds of complaints regarding updates, Wi Fi Dongles,
Jitter…as well as XLR sockets that are not to spec due to depth…You can Google all that I mentioned…
Roses response is not leading as it should be , it’s more like a placement of fault… Cheap cables… Lol. Mine are custom by a reputable manufacturer and friend…and cost more than the Rose… Mo Fi Stated that the Rose is not compatible with Krell Class A 600 watt Amplification…lol
I wrote a review that praises it synergy with the amp and speakers…
On a positive note Rose is interested in my satisfaction with there product… There willing to test all as stated.
I’m willing to give it another try… But with caution…
At the end of the day I’m well aware of Lumin and others
And they are on my radar…
Sorry,
I have to agree w Cougar here.
I’m not doubting you and your experiences… but that I have the RS520… I bought lightly used… but have no issues outside some of the quirks…
For the price… its a good value. Are there other options? Sure. More expensive options.
BS. Unless you want something noisy and distorting (maybe a tube DAC or something) a $500 DAC is more than enough to do “as good as it possibly can be” audio. People thinking that paying more money for audio gives you better sound (with a few exceptions – of course Magicos are better than a $100 cardboard speakers) make for perfect consumers, but really have no clue.
Boris,
The adults are talking.
No, you don’t need a tube dac. Those that like the tube sound say its due to the 2nd order distortions. So that’s their thing.
There are better DAC modules out there. Some say Ladder Dacs, others FPGA or a combo. Some prefer AKM over ESS or CS or Rohm.
But for your tin ears… they all sound the same.
@Cougar2025 is correct that if you come from a background of playing a musical instrument tend to have better trained ears when hearing a difference. Its akin to someone who drinks a lot of wine being able to tell apart the differences in wines, others bourbons, whiskeys and what not.
Sucks to be someone who has a tin ear.
Where? Would you be the adult here? 
Or “look at me, I’m rich, rich, I tell you!” kitty?
That’s the only kind that does, by design, have a different sound.
Audiophiles says the darndest things. Good ladder DACs sound exactly, or almost as good as a cheap sigma-delta ones, they are just simple enough in concept for audiophiles to sort of comprehend. And if you spend a lot of money on them, they can be even accurate enough. Usually they aren’t though. FPGAs, like Chord’s, do exactly the same thing as ESS or AKM, just with more engineering involved.
It’s not in the ear, because they do. Its in the tin brain of some people where differences appear.
you are likely deaf in one ear at least. Most violinists are. Try something better, that can be actually confirmed with facts. Not that you could.
Boris,
You come here, insult everyone, and show your ignorance.
To you there is no difference between GaN and other class D. To you they are all the same.
To you a cheap Cap has the same impact as a more expensive cap in speakers.
To you, getting a cheap chi-fi amp does the same as Rose.
So go and sell any Rose equipment you have and buy the cheaper chi-fi you can get off ali-express.
Stupid people really should know their place, so I am just showing you yours.
Must be nice going through life with not a single brain cell…
Because (surprise!) there isn’ty for anything audible. They do make for nice phone chargers though.
Either it has the same capacitance (not that you knew the difference between capacitance and inductivity, or anything else, as you have demonstrated many times already) or it does not. Some better ones last longer though. But again, you havce to know what a capacitor does, and they do not teach that in intersectional basket-weaving classes.
Most do not have Rose’s screen. Even EverSolo has a smaller one. And that’s the only thing so-called “chi-fi” (pretty good market of a jackass, by the way) does not currently have.
Not everyone is a basement-dwelling failure buying stuff with daddy’s credit cards, like you are. Why sell a working unit, which does what I need it for reasonably well, at a loss? Of course any next device I get is very likely to be a NAD, or Lyngdorf, as Rose shows no interest in making something that is suitable for 2025 and beyond.
Pretty rich talk for someone who has BT dongles and “subwoofers” that AliExpress would be ashamed to sell though.
Absolutely hilarious…
Naw, frankly its getting old.
The thing w Boris… he doesn’t pay attention to details and is pretty lame.
When he talks about why he chose Rose… it was everything except the sound.
Think about that. You’re buying audio equipment and you’re not concerned about the sound… to him all Class D sound the same. (They don’t. )
Where the RS520 comes in… you havve 250wpc either in 8 or 4 ohms. (Stereophile tested 4ohm levels to be above 300wpc ) And the amplification is clean and efficient.
Then secondary are the features.
And also at the end… the price.
But not w Boris.
Oh Mike, don’t take it so seriously.
As I said, @BorisM, his comparisons always make me chuckle when I read them, sorry.
Yeah, this audiophile nonsense has been debunked pretty much when Marconi started making radios.
Which cetails? That you believe in lossless BT, REL making subwoofers, and the tooth fairy?
Of course not. There is nothing special about Rose sound, it’s (well, apart from RD-160 which is competing at AliExpress level) as fine as anything using ESS chips, off the shelf parts, and a reference design.
Just because the nice salesman convinced you that your iFooFoo sends lossless BT sudio to a REL “subwoofer” fed by another customer’s reject 520 does not mean that it makes any kind of special sound. It just means that you are a gullible consumer with no clue, and next time he will sell you some used quantum dots, too.
And no, not all Class D amps sound the same. A $5 job from AliExpress, or that 1000WpC amp from J.C. Whitney that you have in your Civic with huge exhaust don’t sound the same as something competently made (by the way, it’s not 1000 Watts either). Some particularly incompetent companies (like Hegel, or anything Borressen touched) manage to screw Class D fine, but Rose didn’t invest enough in misdesigning their amplification stages, they saved the effort on crippling sub outputs and coming up with the ugliest design possible.
Clear sign of a rather borked design that won’t play nice with many speakers.
It is. Just like it is in any number of better designed amps at less than half the price.
For commodity products like streamers with generic amplification, features are THE number one criteria. Get back to us when you can tell a 520 from a NAD C 389. A 399 with dual subs would sound noticeably better though.
Or anyone else with a brain and some education in physics.
I don’t take Boris seriously, other than he’s a serious bore.
He doesn’t understand second order distortions.
Nor does he understand analog signal processing and how its differs from digital signal processing.
He also doesn’t understand how standards committees work and how you can get something released even though the spec hasn’t been finalized.
And I seriously have doubts if he’s ever picked up a soldering iron and did any DIY electronic work…