Specifications of Clock in RS130 and RD160

So I guess no one talks about drift?

The most important spec for an audio grade clock is its output spectral ‘purity’ (i.e. jitter figures). The clock drift spec (i.e. long term stability) is irrelevant for audio, eventhough such a clock is highly stable by nature.

You have two issues here.

  1. The clock itself.
  2. Synchronization between multiple clocks in the chain.

Drift is solved by a periodic sync against a network clock.

As to having an accurate time signal… after a certain point, you’ll never hear the impact of the jitter.

May be in a recording / production studio… But not on our side of the chain !
The only thing that matters is the spectral purity of the clock signal (related to but not the jitter itself).

There is no such thing as “audio grade clock” and “spectral purity of the clock signal (related to but not the jitter itself)” is just some meaningless drivel.

The only thing that matters is the stability of the clock in the DAC (with possibly the clock at the source, if you are using a crap DAC with no buffering/reclocking and something as useless as I2S for connection).

Synchronization between “multiple clocks in the chain” is useless in home playback, and people paying for equipment with fancy external clocks, let alone network switches (sic!) with “audio grade clocks” are, simply said, idiots.

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Hi Boris,

How right you are again.

Boris, you keep trying to open people’s eyes, but they seem to be blind.

Let them waste their money if their delusion that it sounds better is stronger.

Then ignorance sets in here in the forum, and since people run out of arguments (which they might not even have due to their lack of knowledge), they always try to make you look bad.

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Have a great rest of the week…:v:t2:

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Nah, that’s useless. If one believes in those clocks, magical fuses, or directional Cat 7 Ethernet cables “for audio” they are quite beyond any help.

Of course it would!

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What’s the matter Boris?

CAT got your tongue?

I kid , I kid…

Now Boris, there are two things to think about when talking about the clock… Accuracy and then jitter.
(I won’t go into drift …)

Now depending on how much jitter there is you can smear the signal.
In most things… it doesn’t matter. You can’t hear it. However… on cheap clocks… it could impact sound depending on the accuracy and jitter. (This is where drift can come in to play.)

If someone wants to chase down and spend a ton of money for a more accurate clock… its their money.

Uh huh.

How many of these do you have? They are for sale, too.
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You’d better not…

Sure, if you manage to find something cheaper than a phone dongle from AliExpress (well, or anything from iFi). Not really an issue for anything else.

Certainly. Just like one can pay for “Cat 7” cables that aren’t, stand-alone digital transports, or what not. Their money. They just don’t get to claim that any of that has any audible, let alone beneficial effect on the sound.

Boris…
I think I have a couple… but I got rid of a lot of my older cables and replaced them w CAT 8 when I purchased my 10GbE switch.

And clearly you haven’t learned anything.

You can choose to spend X, while someone else decides to spend Y.
If you want to go cheap… that’s your call.

If you want to spend more and get better quality components. That’s your call.

If all you can do is bash Rose, please go away. Its one thing to be critical, but clearly you go beyond that.

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Here you need one of these:

Note that its not an expensive clock but the jitter is ~75ps .

You’re not going to be able to hear that.

There’s more but if you think you’ll enjoy the music more w a better clock in the mix.
Go for it.