Spotify Lossless

@Smegel

Yes, what you said is correct.
Please check the link below.

Thanks for clarifying that it’s basically Spotify limiting not an issue with the HiFi Rose hardware. Hopefully once Spotify expands support, it’ll work seamlessly through Spotify Connect too

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Mark6088,

No company that outsources its software is ever going to have the necessary supervision and control to make well functioning software.
HiFi Rose has to make the commitment to bring the software development in house.
Until then, these issues will continue.
It’s inevitable.
Anyone who has ever had to deal with a vendor knows that they will always blow smoke in your ear but they have their own agenda and it isn’t yours.

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The Spotify update is rolled out here. Its available on my devices, but Rose needs a firmware update to activate it for spotify connect. And its the firmware update I’m worried about. If Rose dont do anything then it remains useless

Dear HiFi Rose Support Team,

I hope this email finds you well.

I am writing to report a query regarding the Spotify Lossless (HiFi) feature when using Spotify Connect with my HiFi Rose RS130 streamer.

I recently gained access to the Spotify Lossless feature on my account, and it works correctly when playing directly on my iOS device. However, when I initiate playback using Spotify Connect to my RS130 unit, the Lossless indicator on my iOS device disappears, although the audio continues to play normally through the RS130.

I would like to confirm if the RS130 is still receiving and playing the Lossless audio stream via Spotify Connect, despite the indicator disappearing from the controlling iOS device.

Could you please provide some insight or advice on this matter? I want to ensure I am utilizing the highest possible quality audio stream to my RS130.

Thank you very much for your time and support.

Sincerely,
Gƶran

Spotify Connect can do lossless on my Samsung TV but not on RS130. Seriously Hifi Rose, it’s getting embarrassing.

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I can perfectly connect to my rs130, but not yet at the lossless rate. For that Rose needs to implement the related Spotify api.

I didn’t hear back if that api is available to Rose and what implementing timeline they have in mind

Golden Sound released a YT video talking about the fact that Spotify’s ā€˜Lossless’ isn’t really lossless.
Its a good video and it breaks it down to the fact that the streams still go thru the OS layer and this is where it no longer becomes lossless. Its better… but still not lossless.

You should watch the video.Here:

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Dear HiFi Rose users

Spotify has announced that lossless audio playback will be rolled out gradually depending on the region.
At this time, it is not supported on Rose devices.
If it becomes available in the future, we will make a separate announcement.

According to the latest information, Lossless will be gradually launched in more than 50 markets by October. Premium subscribers in countries such as Australia, Austria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the United States, and the United Kingdom have already started using it.

It appears that SDK updates are required for support, but as of now, this does not apply to HiFi Rose devices.

No Mr @ROSEHAN we cannot use it, although already available here, because your equipment dont support it. And the tone of your message suggest we have to wait probably for a long time. ā€œIt appears ā€¦ā€ come on ! This sounds like a total disinterest in the case.

Just wondering if this has to do with compatibility between Android versions, as Rose’s platform is on Android 12 and Spotify may develop only for the latest version.

While that may be the case…
Golden Sound just did a YT video where he tested Spotify’s lossless and found that it wasn’t.
At issue is that the app still goes thru the OS so that you will have some loss. That said… for the most part its still better than before and better than the highest quality.

Also have to wonder which of their music is going to have lossless available.

Mr Rosehan I can confirm that I have lossless spotify now, but Rose resposne is very unenthusiastic and does not give confidence that they have any plans to support it soon,

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@ROSEHAN Hello, HEOS supports Spotify Lossless and Wiim supports Spotify Lossless. What is holding HifiRose back? Will much appreciate if it is enabled as soon as possible. Thanks!

Rosehan said it requires a software development kit. Perhaps Spotify is to blame. I don’t know how the collaboration between companies works. I would prefer he said something like ā€œonce we get the SDK we will implement Spotify Losslessā€ or ā€œSpotify Lossless will never work on the currently offered Rose devices.ā€

I prefer certainty. That said I don’t use Spotify.

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lossless Spotify is already working, but as usual, on everything except rose

Well…
Its working on a lot of devices… but I doubt that Arcam will update the OS for their Solo Uno since they are deprecating it as a product.

Now if I want Lossless on my RS520, I can take my line out from my iBasso DX180 and feed it into the coax in. (Which is kinda interesting. AFAIK, the LO is coax from the DX180 but I don’t think it bypasses the DAC which then feeds into the RS520’s dac. )

If your source has a digital out… (e.g USB) you can use that to get your lossless.

I believe the issue could be the Android version and not having an SDK ready for it. That would explain the delay.

As usual for Schmuckel, it believes wrong.

Spotify Lossless is working on my RS130. I’m running version 5.9.02

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Hi GingerBeard! Tell me how you are doing? Are you connected via IOS och Android? I have IOS and Apple and I can not change the settings to loosless unfortunately.
All the best Goran

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