[Official Release] ROSE ONE Global Launch

joyofmvid

I’ve written many times about what’s wrong with both the streamer and the app. I’ve been told that this is indeed a problem and they’re working on it. Recently, I received information that the tilt indicator, which currently serves as a gadget, will be improved in three months. I’ve also written about the app and its anomalies several times, and still no response.

Potential customers aren’t interested in the database a given app uses. They’re interested in the fact that it works well and quickly, and that they don’t have to buy a $1,000 smartphone or tablet to avoid the app stuttering or freezing, for example, when browsing favorite albums or browsing tracks on a specific album they’re listening to.

And there are more problems. Another one is how to choose in the search engine how to sort albums in the favorite albums folder TIDAL and how to choose the search method. Artist searches by first name, not by last name, which should be by last name. Many people simply don’t remember the artist’s first name. Another anomaly: when we search for a band in the main search engine, for example, and previously listened to Tidal, and after we finish listening to that album, we select something from Qoubuz, the Tidal icon still lights up green, but it should switch to Qoubuz. Next, adding and removing albums from favorite folders in Tidal and Qoubuz, and Rose also knows about this, it works, let’s say, only moderately, but so far, nothing has happened.
So, if there are problems, we should write about them, and if there’s reason to praise them, like the last update went smoothly for me, I’ll write about it. We’re here to write about our concerns and problems, although some of them should be caught by Producnet itself, not us users.

@Querner
We plan to provide our feedback on your previous post by the end of this week.

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joyofmvid

I am not as certain in my opinion as you about which consumer is an audiophile and which is a casual unsophisticated user. I am certain that there are audiophiles out there who consider neither Rose nor Eversolo to be brands that meet their standards. I am also certain that there are young audiophiles or aspiring audiophiles out there who dream of owning a T10 or an RS130 but who do not have the means. “Audiophile” is a subjective term. Some consider themselves audiophiles while some see it as a pejorative term. You, joyofmvid, are in no position to judge.

Regarding the T10 vs the RS130, neither has a DAC, neither produces sound. They are very similar digital front ends, digital transports if you will, with different features. The 130 supports video where the T10 does not. The T10 has room correction, the 130 does not. The RS130 is more handsome (IMO) and a lot heavier than the T10, and that is important to some. Both have similar inputs and outputs, both have internal clocks. But do the digits they output sound different if no room correction is applied and all downstream components are the same? I would argue not, but others will disagree. Oh, the T10 costs about 1/3 as much as the RS130.

Now what do I want from a digital front end? First, I want it to be stable and I want basic functionality to be rock solid. Yes, I like a pretty face, but it definitely does not trump basic functionality. Do I care if the software was built from the ground up or if it came from the streamer company or a third party? No, I just want it to work. Do I want to rely on a control app because the touchscreen controls do not work? No. Do I want I want internal storage for my library of ripped CDs and for my artwork to be displayed? Yes. That is de rigueur for a digital transport.

I have never seen nor touched a T10. I have no idea how it stacks up against the 130. But from what I have read and experienced, both are works in progress. My hope is that both nail down basic functionality, because in the end this is the component that the user interacts with to access digital content. No one wants to be frustrated accessing their music, regardless of what they paid for the unit.

I used to find your comments whimsical and amusing. Now I find them considerably less so. We don’t need someone telling us what is acceptable to post and what is not. If that is what you want to do, get a job at Rose or MoFi.

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To: Cougar2025 & Smegel

Regarding my post at [Official Release] ROSE ONE Global Launch - #181 by joyofmvid

I edited my post so that it’s not so aggressive ← no insult intended (call it a bad hair day).

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@Querner
When I joined the community, I replied using my orange.fr email address. Please refer to that.

I had the T10 for 3 days at home, it should satisfy many people even if the RS130 is more stable during reading the sound is more pleasant, the rest are details (finishition etc …)

@Rose_love
Why do I get this message from you? I never sent you an e-mail,

Hey!
It takes a lot to get offended.
I still talk to Bonte. :stuck_out_tongue:

The thing is that I do know some audiophiles that would say Rose is audiophile grade, and some would say that ES is entry grade… but its the OS that gets everyone’s attention.

If you don’t do a side by side comparison or critical listening… the ES sounds good enough when paired with other ‘audiophile grade’ gear/speakers. But when you compare it to the next tier or a top tier component… you can hear the difference. Then you have to ask yourself is the difference worth 2x-4x the price?

The Rose RD160 is definitely audiograde. The amps are too, and I’m waiting to see the RA80s.

Personally, I wouldn’t get the T series. If you’re going to split out a the component level (separates for streamer and DAC) there are better choices. Aurender for example. I guess it all depends on what you want out of the system.

And while Bonte wants to point out the Room correction… not all room correction is equal and it has been pointed out that both the T8 and T10 allow you to import your own files from REW. And if you’re into room correction. Using REW and a good mic will yield better results than Dirac. (There are some rooms that you can’t correct w audio correction.) Jay Lee of Jay’s Iyagi pointed this out so unless you want the external clock … the T8 would save you $800 if you use REW.
[Note: The clock quality matters more to the DAC than the streamer. ]

Smegel

You’re very lucky. I don’t know anyone who relies solely on streaming and files, and they’d say Rose is a manufacturer for audiophiles, let alone Ever Solo.
None of my friends have any equipment from these manufacturers. A few people have Rose, including myself, and this is my second time, and their systems are primarily based on SACD/CD or a turntable.
And in that case, it’s a good idea to buy, or at least try, something from Rose, because even if Ever Solo were 50% off, I wouldn’t buy anything from them.

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