And you think if they called your distributor, he’d tell you? The guy runs a store to sell equipment, not to badmouth the products he sells.
You’d be surprised what you can learn from dealers and their staff.
Its not necessarily ‘bad mouthing’ products. Remember the sales rep wants to sell you more products and represents multiple brands.
I got a great deal on my RS520 because a good customer traded it back in while buying a bunch of separates. So the loyalty is to the customer not the brand.
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I have a friend who’s a store manager at one of the stores that sells Rose. I’ve bought a lot from him and he’s sold a lot of Rose devices, including Rs 151 and Rs 130. No one has called him with such problems either. He sells a variety of products, not just Rose, so it’s not profitable for him to lie and mislead people.
And what the guy above wrote is important: loyalty is very important, because the more they sell, the more money everyone from the distributor to the stores will make.
And then there’s the fact that hiding something doesn’t help anyone, because it’s better for the distributor to email the manufacturer to ask them to do something, because then they’ll have fewer problems with dissatisfied Rose users in their country.
Again, go back to the previous version and then install the new one. Maybe it will work for you, like it did for the guy who wrote about it. It’s really hard to understand that two or three people are dissatisfied with the sound after the latest update.
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Quick question have they changed the name of the filters and does anyone know what the fast roll off is now called
I received this table in an email from Rose
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HiFi Rose team
Thanks for the upgrade firmware. It fixed the bass and gain output too much problems on my RS151. Now I can use volume level around 50 on my Goldmund system with the same RS151 preout setting volume gain set at 2000mV. Overall becomes more balanced. I was used max volume 35 on my Goulmund maximum in previous firmware. The output gain from RS151 was too powerful and too much on bass before.
I would like to learn what has been adjusted on the latest firmware. Please share with me.
Unfortunately, the album artwork still missing on playlists after added directly from Folder. This is old problems since years ago on my previous RS150b. Please fix it in next version of firmware update.
Many thanks!
In your case, the latest update hasn’t degraded the sound, and in fact, it’s better, based on what you’ve written. Don’t you notice a flat and bright sound?
Are you having any problems with the PIN code?
Some find sound degradation or improvement.
I find it damaging that HIFIROSE touches the audio characteristics.
We have often chosen our devices after various tests and we do not want these characteristics to be modified a priori
Do what is necessary for existing concerns without trying to change a sound signature
IIRC Rose came here and stated that none of their upgrades dealt with changing any audio characteristics.
It would be nice if there were release notes that identified what changes were made.
It is well indicated at the top of this post.
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Yup, so it is…
Long scroll back to the top…
Guess what. Nothing changed that would impact the sound.
And that was the point.
(And you walk thru the posts… you’ll find one where they said the same.)
It is also damaging when people jump on the bandwagon of an internet stranger saying they hear something different when Rose says nothing they did changed the audio. Coupled of course with a lot of us having listened carefully and hear no difference.
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I got this information from a private email, and I quoted it earlier in this thread, where the person from Rose claimed they hadn’t done anything about the DAC or the sound itself. So it’s hard to convince anyone that he’s misleading people. It doesn’t make sense and serves no purpose.
And today I bought Rose RS 151 
, for now I’m burning it in and not updating to the latest version, I need to listen to this version and then I’ll see if I’ll switch to the latest one and compare, or maybe update only when the next update is released.
I have a trusted dealer. He’s the only one I buy from, and more than a dealer, he’s a friend. He works honestly and reliably, and if HiFi Rose doesn’t do things right, it’s not the dealer’s fault.
I have a trusted dealer. He’s the only one I buy from, and more than a dealer, he’s a friend. He works honestly and reliably, and if HiFi Rose doesn’t do things right, it’s not the dealer’s fault. How would we know if the people who didn’t call your friend actually updated the software? Based on my experience and living in Argentina, the only thing I can tell you is that the only truth is each person’s own reality.
Cougar2025.
In my RS151 unit, all the filters listed in the right column came from the day I first turned it on, and as far as I can remember, they’re the same ones I had in my old RS250A. In both my RS250A and my RS151, I always used a Minimum Phase Slow Roll-off Filter.
Sorry, I’m a little confused.
I’m suggesting that the information at the top of the post appears to be correct and then added your information to this.
I’m going to take the word of Rose over those complaining. Note that there are probably things that can go wrong during an update or install so who knows…
Well did your friend tell you that other Rose customers were having issues?
My point was in support of the person who posted about their dealer saying that none of the other customers who bought Rose complained of issues.
My point was that the Dealer is going to be loyal to their customer because they sell more than one brand and the customer will buy more stuff from them if they have a positive relationship.
OK?
As I mentioned before, he’s more of a friend than a distributor, and I’m not going to complain about things he can’t control. For example, HiFi Rose, every time they release a software update, instead of fixing problems, they take a 50-step step back.
Take some time to see all the conversations, discussions, and complaints that arise every time they “update the software.”