RS130 User Interface

[BorisM]

@joyofmvid

@Boris I just read the HiFi Rose RS520 Website. The RS520 is described as an all-in-one Audio Streamer, Pre-Processor, Power Amplifier, CD Player, CD Ripper, and a limited Video Player.

Errr… it does not even have a CD drive, so I’ve no idea what on Earth you were reading.

@joyofmvid

So, you believe that this RS520 product’s Audio Streamer produces better streaming sound than the RS130 which has Fiber Optic SFP capabilities, Linear Toroidal Power Supply, ‘supercapacitor’ UPS feeds (battery), and more. Hmm! I disagree.

RS-130 does not produce any sound whatsoever, because it has no DAC. It just throws bits around.

All those things that you listed here exist for one purpose only, to separate people like you (which is, sorry to say, clueless) from their money. You may disagree all you want, it;'s your money after all, but coming from someone who has no idea what a “data rate” is or that PCM and DSD are different things it’s… a bit unconvincing.

@joyofmvid

RS520 Pre-processor capabilities is in a much lower league than the AVM 90. For example, AVM 90’s ADC capability uses 768kHz

You do not have to keep showing the world that you have no clue what you are talking about. RS520 does not need any preprocessor capabilities, and both are using exact same DAC. Room correction is much better done in Roon anyway, although it is nice to have it.

If you want to play some fake surround music, you don’t need a stereo streamer anyway, and for stereo having thosec15 channels is meaningless.

@joyofmvid

RS520 Power Amplifier is in a much lower league than my Macintosh MC 255 power amplifier & my Anthem MCA 525 power amplifier.

Than a Macintosh… maybe. It doesn’t have real blue VU meters! Than MCA525, not by any stretch of imagination. Of course you need to know what an amplifier is to actually compare their leagues. Do you even know what an Ohm is?

@joyofmvid

RS520 CD Player is in a much lower league than my Magnetar UDP900. Just read up on the Magnetar UDP900’s audio capabilities. You’ll see.

RS520 does not have a CD, so as usual you are talking out of your behind.

Magnetar is a perfectly fine player. After all, it has the exact same DAC as the RS520. And if you are using DACs in your processor (which, incidentally, are also the same) then it does not matter, and your Magnetar works perfectly fine. Just as well as a $150 Sony from Walmart would.

@joyofmvid

I won’t continue any further about your boast that the RS520 is a much better product. I’ll just say, I disagree.

Be my guest. Although you are in no position to agree or disagree about anything, because you are so clueless that you don’t even know that you know absolutely nothing, including what any of those big long words you’ve pasted here mean. Come on, tell us how “Fiber Optic SFP capabilities” affect sound, and what “Linear Toroidal Power Supply” is.

Why don’t you go on some watch forum and tell people how your platinum IWC watch keeps better time than a Casio.

@joyofmvid

In fact, many Audiophiles have stated (in the AVSForum AVM 90 Owner’s Thread) they’ve sold their stereo prepro after purchasing the AVM90. Need I say more.

No, not really. “Audiophile” is a synonym for “idiot.”

@joyofmvid

BTW, Many Marantz AV10 owners have switched to AVM 90 and said they are happy puppies!

Uh huh. And even more picked Marantz, because it has better sound.

@joyofmvid

Tell @ROSEHAN. It’s his quote.

Nope. You just aren’t capable of understanding what people are telling you.

[joyofmvid]

Edited June 19, 2024 To remove a personalized comment.

A one-box solution – (since these are Rose forums) is RS-520 and a speaker-level switchbox.

Alternative solution, since you must have some power amps with that AVM90, either RS-150 or RS-250 and a line-level switchbox to the power amplifier for front channels.

I refuse to sell any of my HT/Audiophile System components for RS-products that don’t match the league of my speakers.

@Bonet says you know your stuff. I believe him. Just don’t say things like

• “The more you post the more amusing it becomes.”
• “They are happy, as people of low IQ often are.”
• “BS Audio”

@Boris Be respectful. Say PS Audio,… People will then read the post coming from a true expert who respects others “err”.

Remember, everyone was a newbie at one time. Permit newbies to post without fear of being criticized – don’t criticize, educate.

[joyofmvid]

Edited June 17, 2024 to remove the insulting statements (@Boris Sorry about that).

Please don’t say anymore.

Room correction is much better done in Roon anyway, although it is nice to have it.

Room Correction is very complex software. IMHO, I doubt Roon’s “room correction” is as sophisticated as Anthem’s Arc Genesis.

…

I will no longer reply or read your posts. You’ve convinced me, it’s not worth the effort. I tried to be make peace with you but you refuse to accept it. You just continue to make hateful comments and sometimes make “errs” too. You’re human.

[joyofmvid]

I apologized to the other readers of this thread.

I got caught in Boris’ web – Boris & I consumed the thread with off topic discussion. My posts will now be back on this thread’s topic "RS130 User Interface"

P.S., I’m asking this thread’s moderator to delete all posts starting with post #19 – and if possible I’ll ask that all posts to be deleted, be moved to a new thread called “Asking Anthem to support i²s on their AVM 90”.

[BorisM]

@joyofmvid

You got to be kidding. I refuse to sell any of my HT/Audiophile System components for RS-products that don’t match the league of my speakers. Remarks like this makes me believe your remarks are just blah, blah, blah.

LOL. Yet another audiofool who thinks that spending more money gives them better quality. Or some kind of special insight into equipment.

@joyofmvid

Be respectful. Say PS Audio.

People (or companies) should earn respect first. While Uncle Paul is a great marketer, and deserves some admiration as such, at least if you care to respect a person who will turn on a dime and start claiming something completely opposite to what he was claiming yesterday, based on what BS Audio has for sale currently, as a manufacturer of HiFi equipment they deserve none. When they manage to design something that is at least approaching state of the art, we’ll see.

@joyofmvid

his is really dumb. Roon cannot adjust the sound of each speaker let alone hear test tones using a mic

Huh? You just keep saying things you have no idea about. Maybe, just maybe, it’s you who isn’t very intelligent?

@joyofmvid

I will no longer reply or read your posts. You’ve convinced me, it’s not worth the effort. I tried to be make peace with you but you refuse to accept it. You just continue to make hateful comments and sometimes make “errs” too. You’re human.

Everyone here is human. Maybe if you haven’t had delusions of grandeur and asked “I have an Anthem AVM90, what is the best way to connect a Rose streamer to it?” we could have been done in one message here (answer is, any of the RS130, 150, 250, 520 would work equally well, with an HDMI connection. There. Done.) Instead, you believed yourself to actually know something and spent half the thread claiming that AVM90 supports I2S, and you just need a pinout…

And so far you haven’t been correct on any factual statement. You haven’t even managed to ask a single question that makes sense.

@joyofmvid

new thread called “Asking Anthem to support i²s on their AVM 90”.

They won’t. It’s impossible. Would require entirely new hardware. And would serve no purpose at all whatsoever.

[joyofmvid]

Newbies:
First, read the RS130 User Manual at [RS130] Owner's Manual : HiFi ROSE

Unique to HiFi Rose Players

The Queue is the primary focus of the RS130’s User Interface ← when you select and press PLAY, the selected item is queued. Music/Video is played as ordered in the queue. Swipe right to left, to see the currently queued items on the right side of the screen.

Following are “How to…” threads that I recommend newbies to read:

• How to use Queue and Playlist
• Queue Function - integrated playlists from each Music Service - #17 by StandardModel
• Playing my music - #7 by afa2022
• Play by Genre, Artist, Composer, Shuffled, Next, Last etc
• Why can’t Roseconnect see a UPNP/DLNA server? - #15 by Martini
• Which Streamer/Transport has the best software
• How to switch to VU meter - #2 by ROSEHAN
• Rose Connect Windows
• Various Artists albums listing on Rose Connect App - #5 by alessandro

Edited June 26, 2024 – Added the following two threads for newbies:

• How to use network sharing - #2 by rus5

• How to add to the queue: see description at Which Streamer/Transport has the best software - #34 by Sebrof

Edited Ju,y 7, 2024 – Added the following thread for newbiews:

• Highlight features to enrich your ROSE life - 1

[joyofmvid]

Thank you @HMANAZ for the following RoseConnect image – image was copied from RS130 Connection: for best streaming audio quality & best file playback audio quality - #2 by HMANAZ

The above image is the Settings screen. Take Note of the screen’s bottom line which list the different media you can go to (e.g., Music, Video, RoseRadio, RoseTube, etc). So far, the general screen organization of the RoseConnect app seems to be quite intuitive.

[joyofmvid]

The following image shows the “queue”. This image is from @Sebrof at Which Streamer/Transport has the best software - #19 by Sebrof

Sebrof said: On the iPad the queue moves to the right to hide, or moves left to view (it is moved left in the screenshot below). I can tap any song and it will play from that song and then continue playing the next songs in the queue.

Using the queue’s top right icons: The trash can icon allows me to delete what I want in the queue, the up/down icon allows me to move the songs in the queue, and I haven’t figured out what the 3rd icon does (it looks like a file folder??).

[joyofmvid]

Thanks to @Sebrof for great queue & playlist explanation:
To see Sebrof explanation, click:

Which Streamer/Transport has the best software

To clarify, the queue is simply a list of songs that you have selected to be played. Queue is the songs waiting in the queue (or we might say “waiting in line” here in the US). There are several ways to get songs into the queue. The first pic is a partial shot of one of my Qobuz playlists (Good Tunes). If I tap the 3 dots next to the heart all the way to the right of any song a menu pops up (shown in the 2nd shot for the song Trouble’s What You’re In). I can select any of the options shown. Th…

Playlist screen:

[joyofmvid]

Video Tutorials:

• Playlist, Queue & Play Options (5m07s):

• https://youtu.be/SxHiKeKh1Iw
  .

• Add Radio Channel (1m53s):

• https://youtu.be/vdd6FBZExqQ
  .

• Music (8m35s):

• https://youtu.be/TtNxcnvx6U0

• Add Album Cover (1m44s):
  Rose YouTube Video for adding Album Covers

• For more videos, see https://m.youtube.com/@hifirose/videos

[joyofmvid]

Thanks to @Ben for showing there’s a “Recommendation” feature in the Android app. See Recommendation Feature

[joyofmvid]

Thanks to @Rosehan for describing How to edit a Playlist – see Play list edit.....15 characters - #6 by ROSEHAN

The following steps is for Android-based phone/tablet:

1. RoseConnect app–>Home–>Explore–>My playlist–>View all
2. Select the Playlist containing the music you want to delete.
3. Select the three dots icon to the right of the heart-shaped icon in the center of the screen and click “Edit playlist.”
4. Press the trash bin high icon to select the song you want to delete.
   Once you have selected the songs you want to delete, press the Delete button.

One of the images shown in Rosehan’s description, is:

[HMANAZ]

You should see how amazing these features are in Roon Rose is a great streamer the UI/UX not so great.

[joyofmvid]

Regarding playlists, see this 1m 45sec video,

[How to] How to add music to a playlist and how to create a playlist

[joyofmvid]

What does “Classification” top button do? See photo (from [OTA] SW Ver 5.7.05 Software Release ( RS130/RS520/RS150/RS250/RS201) - #235 by Basstech):

[ROSEHAN]

@joyofmvid

I have a few questions.

1. Are you asking because many albums are displayed as Unknown when you set the Genre in Classification?
2. Is the genre set in the album tag displayed as Unknown?
3. Please take a picture of the album tag displayed as Unknown and send it to me.

[joyofmvid]

There’s no question. I am only showing the Album Genre display.

[joyofmvid]

[joyofmvid]

See How to return to now playing song info from remote

[joyofmvid]

For SFP Transceiver Module, see the “Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL vs. Cisco SFP-10G-AOC5M” comparison (May 5, 2023 post) at Finisar SFP+ Modules for Audio Grade Network Switch (Group Buy for Audiophilestyle.com) - Page 8 - AfterDark (Sponsored) - Audiophile Style

• I’m now considering to buy/trial the Cisco SFP-10G-AOC5M module.

For USB port, see post at Rs130 sfp brands - #14 by PatriceP